The following message was delivered at Grace Community Church in Panorama 
City, California, By John MacArthur Jr.  It was transcribed from the tape,
GC 90-58, titled "Charismatic Chaos" Part 7.  A copy of the tape can be 
obtained by writing, Word of Grace, P.O. Box 4000, Panorama City, CA 91412.

I have made every effort to ensure that an accurate transcription of the 
original tape was made.  Please note that at times sentence structure may 
appear to vary from accepted English conventions.  This is due primarily to 
the techniques involved in preaching and the obvious choices I had to make in 
placing the correct punctuation in the article.

It is my intent and prayer that the Holy Spirit will use this transcription 
of the sermon, "Charismatic Chaos" Part 7, to strengthen and encourage the 
true Church of Jesus Christ.



                         Charismatic Chaos - Part 7

                      "How Do Spiritual Gifts Operate?"
                                     by
                               John MacArthur



As a preface to our study tonight, I want to just mention to you that we are 
going through this study on the Charismatic movement, its contemporary form.  
And I am unable in this particular study to cover every relevant passage of 
Scripture, and so I would just encourage you that you will find a series of 
tapes on all of the relevant passages that I have already preached on in 
years past, out of the Book of Acts, out of 1 Corinthians, which are the 
primary ones.  You will also find in the bookstore and the tape room, a study 
guide of about 300 pages on the issue of spiritual gifts; in some great 
detail I cover that.  I also have written a book on Tongues, and speaking in 
Tongues, and all that is involved in that.  And then we have the commentary 
on 1 Corinthians, which is a verse by verse discussion of those passages, and 
particularly focusing on chapters 12 through 14 that deal with Spiritual 
Gifts.  So there are some supplemental materials that would be very helpful 
for you in filling out your understanding of this subject.  What I am 
endeavoring to do in this series is not go through every single passage in 
great detail, but to take a kind of overall look at the contemporary 
Charismatic movement and compare it with what we know to be true out of the 
Word of God.  We are looking at it more from the doctrinal side then we are 
from the expositional side.  

Now, I want you to turn in your Bible tonight, to a passage of Scripture that 
I think sets a good context for what I want to say.  Matthew, chapter 7, and 
I want to begin reading in verse 15, and just read down a little ways, and I 
think that you will catch the flow of what we find here.  Jesus, here, is 
bringing the Sermon on the Mount to its conclusion, and in so doing, this is 
what He says, beginning in Matthew 7, and verse 15, "Beware of the false 
prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous 
wolves."  By the way, sheep's clothing is wool and it was the garment of the 
prophet.  The prophet wore wool and so they are coming, not as false sheep, 
but as false shepherds,

      "You will know them by their fruits" (verse 16).  "Grapes are 
      not gathered from thorn bushes, nor figs from thistles, are 
      they?  Even so, every good tree bears good fruit; but the bad 
      tree bears bad fruit.  A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor 
      can a bad tree produce good fruit.  Every tree that doesn't bear 
      good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.  So then, you 
      will know them by their fruits."  

What Jesus is saying is, "Don't listen just to what they say; look at the 
character of their life--the product."  And then He says, in verse 21, 

      "Not everyone," and still in the context of false teachers, "who 
      says to Me, 'Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven; but 
      he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven.  Many will 
      say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your 
      name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform 
      many miracles?'  And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew 
      you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.'"

An amazing passage, warning us about false teachers.  These particular false 
teachers appear to say the right thing--they speak about the Lord.  "Lord, 
Lord," they say.  They even seem to do the right things--they prophesy or 
preach in "The name of the Lord."  "In the name of the Lord," they cast out 
demons.  "In the name of the Lord," they perform many miracles.  But they 
don't know the Lord, and the Lord does not know them, and we are to be aware 
of that reality.

So as we come to any examination of the Charismatic movement that takes us 
into looking at the phenomena of the movement, we have to very aware of the 
fact that Jesus warned us already that even though they speak in the Lord's 
name, and even though they cast out demons in the Lord's name, and even 
though they do miracles and claim to do them in the Lord's name, they may be 
false.  They may say all of the right things but you have to look at the 
fruit of their lives; you have to compare them with the divine standard of 
good fruit.

This examination and this test must be held up in the issues of spiritual 
gifts.  As we look at these people who say they are prophesying in Jesus' 
name, and casting out demons and doing miracles, we want to be sure of two 
things: one, that their lives back it up, and two, that what they do is 
consistent with the Word of God.  

So I want to help you to evaluate that, if I can, tonight.  And I want to 
refer to some of the more well known of these Charismatic leaders today 
because they're so very public, and they represent the kind of thing that is 
going on that has to be tested.  

In Orlando, there is a preacher in the Orlando Christian Center, named Benny 
Hinn.  Benny Hinn slays people in the Spirit.  When Hinn feels the anointing 
come upon his hand, he touches his followers on the forehead, or simply waves 
an arm at them, and they fall down in a faint.  If you've ever seen him on 
television, then you have witnessed that.  He has a nationally aired 
television broadcast in which people are slain in the Spirit nearly every 
week.  In fact, the other night I was watching him and he slew everybody in 
the entire auditorium--one section at a time.  He waved his hand over this 
section and they all fell down, and then he waved his hand over this section 
and they all fell down, and he waved his hand over that section and they all 
fell down, and then he waved his hand over the balcony and they all fell 
down.  

And the question comes to mind, of course, "Is Benny Hinn's ability a unique 
spiritual gift?  Is this God?  Is God knocking all these people down?  Or is 
he simply using the techniques of mesmerism and the power of suggestion?  In 
fact, isn't it fair to say that he may even be using demonic power?"  Surely 
in the light of the warnings of Scripture (Matthew 24:24, Mark 13:22, 2 Thess 
2:7-9), demon inspired people are going to do "lying wonders."  And so that 
possibility must not be ruled out.  

One thing is certain, Benny Hinn or anyone else who knocks people over, is 
doing something that is never described, never discussed in the Bible.  
Nothing like it is listed in any list of spiritual gifts, and no apostle, and 
no early church leader ever did anything like that.  The Charismatic practice 
of slaying people in the Spirit, yet, has become so commonplace that many 
Charismatics may be surprised to learn that Scripture is utterly silent about 
such a gift.  There is no record that anybody ever did that.  The only time 
anybody ever fell over was when Jesus spoke in the Garden when the soldiers 
came to arrest Him.  Yet the practice typifies the Charismatic movement's 
obsession with some kind of strange and bizarre phenomena.  There is no 
indication that in the early church anybody had the power to knock people in 
to some kind of spirit-filled catalepsy.   

But there is a preoccupation today with the paranormal, the same fascination, 
I think, that leads people to reading avariciously [greedily] as they do the 
books of Stephen King and others like him.  From the earliest days of 
Pentecostalism the quest for more unusual and more spectacular manifestation 
of spiritual gifts, has in effect, sabotaged rational thinking so that you  
have people that are turning away from what is reasonable and rational.  And, 
as I have noted throughout the series, reports of inexplicable things, even 
unbelievable things, mystical phenomena, are just rampant in the Charismatic 
and Pentecostal tradition.  And it doesn't matter what it is; no tale seems 
too bizarre, too fantastic, too far out, to get a following.  Peter Masters 
and John Witcomb (sp.) have written a book called, "The Charismatic 
Phenomena," and in it there is a quote that might be worth your listening 
too, 

      There is no doubt that Charismatic teaching results in a 
      considerable lowering of the credulity threshold of all its 
      adherence.  The practice of tongues, the relegation of the 
      understanding to a minor place, the diet of miracles, and the 
      extreme subjectivity of Charismatic thinking, all combine to 
      produce this effect, quickly and inevitably.  Once people have 
      been mentally conditioned by a Charismatic environment, they are 
      able to take seriously such amazing ideas as Oral Roberts claim 
      to have seen a vision of Jesus 900 feet tall!  Charismatic 
      practices loosen up the mind in such an unhealthy way that 
      people will believe almost anything.

You see, once you disconnect people from rational thinking, they are fair 
game.  In fact, many appear to believe that God's power can be displayed only 
in ways that are irrational, unearthly, eerie, and somewhat preposterous.  
Some Charismatics disdain logic, as we have noted, disdain reason, disdain 
common sense in an eagerness to embrace these kind of things.  Worse, the 
entire Charismatic movement has absorbed the erroneous notion that whatever 
is truly spiritual, whatever is truly of the Spirit must somehow transcend or 
bypass a person's rational senses.  They would, for the most part want us to 
believe that anything that is rational, sensible, reasonable, is not 
supernatural.  Spiritual gifts supposedly operate by somehow suspending the 
faculties of human reason.  And you would think that the strongest evidence 
of the Holy Spirit's working is when everybody goes into a stupor!  And then 
you are really seeing the power.  When everybody falls over in some kind of 
stupor, you are really seeing God at work.  And so the lore of the 
Charismatic movement is filled with outrageous accounts of behavior that 
resembles trances, seizures, subliminal messaging, hypnosis, suspended 
animation, frenzy, hysteria, and even dementia.  And these are often cited as 
evidences of the power of God.  Churches where people think reasonably and 
rationally, sensibly, discern with their minds the things of God--"Do not 
know," they say, "the power of God."

Kenneth Hagan, another very popular leader in the movement, for example, 
claims that one night while he was preaching, a cloud of glory enveloped him, 
and he lost track of where he was and what he was saying,

      I didn't know one word that I had said for 15 minutes.  I had 
      been the "Glory Cloud."  When I found myself walking around the 
      altar, I got so embarrassed.  My face got red and I ran back on 
      the platform, got behind the pulpit, and said, "Amen, let's 
      pray" and gave the invitation.  Sometimes when I am preaching 
      (Hagan writes) the Spirit of God comes on me, arrests my 
      attention, and I can't say a word in English.  He goes on to 
      tell an incident when he was ministering with Fred Price, who is 
      down here in the Crenshaw area, and he said he was struck with 
      what he believed was an anointing in the church service.  Hagan 
      said that he was unable to communicate in English for hours.  

Now, the point is that this is to evidence the real power of God, when you 
completely out of touch with reality!  In a similar vein, Hagan relates this 
story, and I am quoting from his writing, 

      Sister Maria Woodworth Edder (sp.) was an evangelist during the 
      early days of the Pentecostal movement in this country.  I read 
      the newspaper account of what happened in Saint Louis sometimes 
      before 1920.  She was in her 70's preaching in a tent which was 
      full, when right in the middle of her sermon, with her hand up 
      uplifted to illustrate a point and her mouth opened, the power 
      of God came upon her.  She froze in that position and stood like 
      a stature for three days and for three nights.  Think about 
      that, all of her body had to be under the control of the Spirit 
      of God!  She had no bodily functions for three days and nights.  
      She stood there!  According to the newspaper account, it was 
      estimated that more than 150,000 people came by to see her in 
      the three day period.  The third night the Spirit of God 
      released her.  She thought it was the same night and the same 
      sermon and she went on preaching at the same place in her 
      sermon.

It completely escapes me, why anyone would assume that such behavior 
manifests God's power!  Nothing remotely like it can be found in Scripture, 
except Lot's wife.  Still, whatever sermon she was preaching she never 
completed.  Still, Hagan tries to eclipse that tale with even more bizarre 
ones, he says, 

      One night a sixteen year old girl was filled with the Spirit, 
      spoke with other tongues, went into a spirit of intercession, 
      then with her hands raised, stood in one spot for eight hours 
      and forty minutes.  She never batted an eye, never shifted her 
      weight from foot to foot.  It was January and she was standing 
      away from the stove.  Her mother, concerned about her getting 
      cold, asked it if would be all right to move her nearer to the 
      stove, which was in the center of the room.  "I don't know," I 
      said, "I have never seen anything like it."  The pastor who 
      weighed 250 pounds said, "Brother Hagan, you get under one of 
      her elbows and I will get under the other and we will scoot her 
      closer to the heat."  But she couldn't be moved--it was as if 
      she was nailed to the floor!  

      On another night, when we gave the altar call, I sensed the 
      power of God was upon one of the women.  She began exhorting 
      people to be saved.  I said, "Sister, go ahead and obey God."  
      With her eyes closed she stepped upon the wide altar and began 
      walking from one end to the other, exhorting sinners to be 
      saved.  She would walk right up to the end of the altar and you 
      would think that she was going to step off!  But, each time she 
      would turn.  Folks started coming to the altar, her eyes were 
      shut, but every time one would come her spirit would know it and 
      she would dance a little jig for joy.  Then she would go right 
      back to exhorting.  When the twentieth person had come, (every 
      single sinner was saved that night, God is my witness, my wife 
      is my witness, and each person in that building is my witness) 
      she began to dance right off of the end of the altar!  She stood 
      in midair dancing!  Her feet were not touching the floor, 
      everyone saw it, I could have reached out and touched her, then 
      she turned and danced back on to the altar, down the altar to 
      the other end and stopped, opened her eyes and stepped off.

Frankly, that seems like a scene from a bad horror movie, more than [it does] 
a true miracle.  Levitation, altered states, feet nailed to the floor!  That 
is the apparatus of the Occult--not genuine spiritual gifts.  You say, "Well, 
you have chosen some isolated and atypical examples."  Not so!  And it is not 
just provincial and old fashioned Charismatics who report such spectacles.  
Virtually every major segment of the Charismatic movement feature stories 
like those.  Even the newest, the Third Wave movement, which we discussed 
some last Sunday night, despite strong ties to the academic community, 
exhibits a definite bias towards signs and wonders in which human intellect 
is disengaged.  Carol Wimber describes the watershed experience that launched 
her husband's church into power evangelism (her husband being John Wimber),

      It was Sunday evening, Mother's Day 1981, and a young man whom 
      John had invited to preach, gave his testimony.  At the end of 
      his message, the guest speaker invited all those under the age 
      of 25 to come forward.  None of us had a clue as to what was 
      going to happen next.  When we got to the front the speaker 
      said, "For years now the Holy Spirit has been grieved by the 
      Church, but He is getting over it.  Come Holy Spirit!"  And He 
      came.  Most of these young people had grown up around our home 
      and we knew them well.  We had four children between the ages of 
      18 and 24.  One fellow, Tim, started bouncing!  His arms flung 
      out and he fell over, but one of his hands accidentally hit a 
      mike stand and he took it down with him.  He was tangled up in 
      the cord with the mike next to his mouth.  Then he began 
      speaking in tongues, so the sound went throughout the gymnasium.  
      We had never considered ourselves Charismatics and certainly 
      never placed any emphasis on the gift of tongues.  We had seen a 
      few people tremble and fall over before and we had seen many 
      healings, but this was different.  The majority of the young 
      people were shaking and falling over.  At one point it looked 
      like a battlefield; bodies everywhere, people weeping, wailing, 
      speaking in tongues, much shouting and loud behavior.  And there 
      was Tim in the middle of it all--babbling into the microphone!  

Can you tell me that, that kind of chaos is to be accepted as proof that God 
is at work?  Even John Wimber at first seemed uncertain: "He spent all night 
reading Scripture and historical accounts of revivals," Mrs. Wimber reports,  
"He was afraid of doing anything that wasn't explicitly outlined in the 
Bible."  That's a healthy fear.  But apparently that all night study didn't 
yield him any conclusive answers, and so Mrs. Wimber goes on, 

      By 5:00am John was desperate.  He cried out to God, "Lord, if 
      this is You please tell me."  A moment later, the phone rang and 
      a pastor friend of ours from Denver, Colorado, was on the line.  
      "John," he said, "I am sorry I am calling so early but I have 
      really something strange to tell you.  I don't know what it 
      means but God wants me to say, 'It's me John!'"  That was all 
      John needed.  He didn't have to understand the trembling, or why 
      everything happened as it did, all he needed to know was that 
      the Holy Spirit did it.

And how did he know the Holy Spirit did it?  He got a phone call from Denver.  
That's how he knew.  If John Wimber had continued reading Scripture he might 
have come to 1 Corinthians 12:13-14, and he might have seen the Apostle Paul 
reprove the Corinthian Church for just such a scene.  In verses 23 and 40 of 
1 Corinthians chapter 14, it says, "If therefore the whole church should 
assemble together and all speak in tongues, and ungifted men or unbelievers 
enter, will they not say that you are mad?  But let all things be done 
properly and in an orderly manner."  And of course, you don't determine God's 
will by a phone call from anywhere.  God's Word is the only reliable test of 
such things, and it seems clear that an honest reading of Scripture would 
have given the plain answer.  How can you take counsel from an unexpected 
telephone call?  But that's the mystical again.  It must be God, because it 
seems so extraordinary.  I guess John Wimber decided that he didn't need to 
make sense of what was happening in the church.  He didn't need to reconcile 
it with Scripture.  He didn't need to understand it, he only needed a phone 
call.  He had a mystical sign and that was enough, so he put aside his fear 
about extrabiblical phenomena, deciding and opting out, for the proof of a 
phone call.

Now, these are simply illustrations of what goes on in the movement.  The 
Charismatic tendency to suspend the intellect and let mysticism run amuck is 
the essence of what Paul wrote against in 1 Corinthians 14.  There Paul 
condemns primarily the misuse of the gift of tongues, but he also has other 
things in mind as well.  And he was bringing order to the very chaos which 
has come back to the Church.  And yet it is so true, that in the modern 
Charismatic movement, chaos and confusion are typical, very typical.  

Several of our elders from Grace Church attended the Vineyard, a few weeks 
ago, to see this very kind of chaos.  People lying on the floor prostrate for 
a prolonged period of time with all their limbs sticking out, as if they were 
in a catatonic state.  People babbling in tongues and being incited to do 
that by the leader.  People pushing chairs off the floor and dancing all over 
the floor and jumping up and down on the chairs.  The same kind of hysteria.

Norval Hayes (sp.) describes an incident when he supposedly healed a man of 
deafness, 

      The man fell straight forward, face down on the floor.  You 
      would have thought all of his teeth would have been knocked out, 
      but they weren't.  Then he bounced and fell back down again.  
      The impact could have broken his nose but it didn't.  Again he 
      bounced up off the floor and fell back again.  This time he laid 
      there real quiet for 60 seconds, then his mouth opened and a 
      little squeaky sound like a mouse began to come out.  It got 
      louder, sounding like a big rat, and finally sounded like a 
      screaming hyena.  In a little while the man shook his head and 
      pushed himself up off of the floor.  He acted as if he had been 
      hit in the head with a stick, but both ears had popped opened 
      and the knot in his stomach was gone.  People jumped out of 
      their seats and started running towards me and saying, "Pray for 
      me."  As I reached out and began to pray, it was as though the 
      wind of God had come into my hands.  People were lying all 
      around on the floor, including denomination pastors.  God 
      baptized them in the Holy Ghost and the moment they hit the 
      floor they started to speak in tongues.  

Kenneth Hagan tells us of incredible tales about unusual healings that he has 
done when peculiar anointings have been manifest in his ministry,

      Several times the anointing has come on me to do unusual things 
      while praying for the sick.  Sometimes I go along 5 or 6 years 
      between times.  The first time it happened to me was in 1950.  I 
      was preaching in Oklahoma, a woman came forward for prayer, she 
      said she was 72, she looked like she was about to give birth to 
      a baby, of course, she had a tumor.  I started to lay hands on 
      her to pray, when the Word of the Lord came to me saying, "Hit 
      her in the stomach with your fist!"  On the inside of me I said, 
      "Lord, you're going to get me in trouble, going around hitting 
      women in the stomach with my fist.  I don't believe I much want 
      to do that."  "Well, if you want argue about it, the anointing 
      will leave you.  It will lift from you just like a bird flying 
      away after sitting on your shoulder."  It left me.  

      When it left me, I thought, "Well, I will go ahead and minister 
      with laying on of hands."  I laid hands on her again and the 
      anointing came again, and the Word of the Lord came and said, 
      "Hit her in the stomach with your fist!"  I decided I better 
      stop and explain that to the crowd before I started doing it.  
      So I told them what the Lord said and I punched her in the 
      stomach with my fist, and God and hundreds of people are my 
      witnesses that that stomach went down like you'd stuck a pin in 
      a balloon.  

Hagan tells of another man he was told to "Hit in the head!"  And a young 
female college student he was to hit in the Kidney!  

Now, all I am doing is reading you the testimony of these people.  The words 
are their words.  And such tactics, apart from being dangerous, especially 
with 72 year old people and other people who are under physical duress, leave 
me dumbfounded, to say nothing of their foolishness.  And recently, you might 
be interested to know, that an 85 year old woman came forward for a healing 
touch from Benny Hinn.  And while she was in line, he slew someone in the 
Spirit, who fell over and crushed the woman's hip and she died.  And there is 
now a $5,000,000 lawsuit against Benny Hinn.  That kind of ridiculous chaos 
that ends in the death of an elderly woman is not the power of God.  
Charismatic chaos is usually not so physically fatal, but it is spiritually 
fatal for many.  

Some concerned parents wrote our church, and I get letters about this quite 
regularly, my file is fairly large, but their daughter had become involved 
with a spiritual gifts workshop in a large well known Third Wave church.  The 
mother wrote this,

      In December of 1989 she began (speaking of the daughter) 
      speaking in tongues.  Shortly thereafter she began to see 
      angels.  An angel in armor always stands outside the front door 
      of her home and another stands inside her living room.  He has 
      large wings.  She says she asked God to send her angels for 
      protection while her husband was on a business trips.  A few 
      months later she began to see demons also.  A monkey like demon 
      sat on her husband's head one night and hissed at her.  She sees 
      others riding on tops of cars or standing on rooftops and some 
      in battle with the angels.  She sometimes sees darkness around 
      people.  She believes seeing this is a God given gift.  When I 
      told her to test the spirits, she got angry.  She said the Lord 
      said, "Yes, it is I the Lord."  I believe they are all demons.  
      I told her to read the Bible.  She said she only reads the 
      Scripture numbers the Holy Spirit puts in her mind.  

      We visited her and attended one of her group meetings.  A 
      prophet from Kansas City came (one of the Kansas City Prophets.  
      That's a group that I have mentioned); he said something about 
      the past, present, or future of nearly everyone in the room.  
      Somethings were incredibly true and other things haven't 
      happened yet.  Our daughter now wants to develop this gift in 
      herself and can now sometimes see a person's sin written on 
      their forehead.  She will then expel a demon.  Since I told her 
      to test the spirits, as the Bible tells us, she will not tell me 
      what she's seeing anymore.  I feel there is a wall between us.

I listened this week to five tapes of one of these prophets, who supposedly 
can tell you your phone number, your address, and so forth.  And by doing 
those kinds of things, which can be done by chicanery, little different than 
the Amazing Crescan (sp.) does them, or could be demonic, he thus convinces 
people that, indeed, he is a prophet.  And once the convincing is done by the 
people who are already are under the power of suggestion, and are already 
"setup" to buy into anything that is supernatural, whatever the person then 
says is taken as truth.  Like so many Charismatics, that young woman has come 
to believe that her experiences obviate Bible study and spiritual 
discernment.  Why should she listen to her mother when God talks to her?  
I've seen marriages break up.  I went through the breakup of a marriage of a 
wife who had no reason to listen to her husband because God talked to her.  
These people believe that they have some kind of a superior relationship with 
the Holy Spirit.  They don't need Scripture, except an isolated verse or two 
that supposedly the Holy Spirit brings to mind.

You see, the Charismatic movement breeds this kind of catastrophe in 
marriages, in families, in churches, because it discourages people from 
discerning the truth from Scripture.  It discourages the people from using 
the mind.  Instead, truth is appraised subjectively, through signs and 
wonders and mystical means.  Kenneth Hagan again, who really is the Patriarch 
of the Signs and Wonders movement, explains his criteria for judging between 
true and false spiritual gifts,

      When God moves everybody will be blessed.  If something is of 
      the flesh, everybody will have a sick feeling.  If something is 
      of the devil, it seems like the hair will stand up on neck.  
      That's a simple way everyone can judge whether they've got any 
      spiritual discernment or not.  

You mean to tell me that I can know if I have spiritual discernment by 
whether I feel sick or whether the hair stands up on the back of my neck?  
There it is, as explicitly as it can be stated, by a leading Charismatic.  
That's how you determine spiritual discernment.  And he is defining there 
exactly what is wrong with Charismatic mysticism.  Spiritual discernment, 
from the Biblical perspective is unnecessary.  It's really a very simple 
system of biofeedback.  Again and again Charismatics hear the same message, 
"Put your mind on hold, ignore your reason, listen to your feelings."  That 
kind of extreme mysticism contradicts everything Scripture teaches about true 
discernment.  

Spiritual gifts are not supposed to produce mindless chaos and mindless 
pandemonium in the church, nor are they to be a way that a person can show 
off his spirituality before the crowd.  They are never to be used selfishly; 
they are never to be used in some kind of performance; they are never to be 
used to cause you to lapse into some kind of spiritual coma or put other 
people in a state of unconsciousness.  

Kenneth Copeland, a rather comedic child of Kenneth Hagan, in terms of having 
the same theology, writes, and this is a quote, "Believers are not supposed 
to be led by logic.  We are not even to be led by good sense.  The ministry 
of Jesus was never governed by logic or reason."  That's just not true.  Now 
there is so much that we can learn and look at in 1 Corinthians.  Let me just 
give you a little bit of a feeling for how Paul dealt with this.  I don't 
want to take much time, so listen very carefully.  Very brief.  

The Charismatic gifts as we know them, were operating in the early church,  
for God had purpose for them at that time.  And in the book [Charismatic 
Chaos] there will be a chapter on the matter of tongues and I will deal with 
it a little later in our series so I don't want to get into it in detail now, 
but simply to say, there was a time when all the spiritual gifts were 
operative, but they had become misused and abused and counterfeited in 
Corinth.  And we would have to say that the Charismatic Chaos of today is 
very much like the Charismatic Chaos of Corinth.  Some of the factors differ.  
In that day all the gifts were operative, today they are not.  But there were 
abuses then and there are abuses now.  The situation was so abusive that Paul 
writes 1 Corinthians to correct it.  

They had a lot of problems in Corinth: divisions, personality cults, cliques, 
moral compromise, and other desperate ills in the church.  Carnality 
outweighed spirituality; sexual perversion, fornication, incest, adultery 
were being tolerated.  Worldliness was there, materialism was in the church, 
church members were suing each other.  There was rebellion against apostolic 
authority.  There was marital conflict going on.  The role of single people 
was misunderstood and misrepresented.  Liberty was being abused.  Idolatry 
was being practiced.  Selfishness was rampant.  Pride was widespread.  Demon 
worship had come in.  The church was abusing God's intention for the Lord's 
Table and the Love Feast.  And in the middle of all of this, spiritual gifts 
were being perverted, misused and prostituted.  

This is one corrupt church.  The problem wasn't that they lacked spiritual 
gifts: 1 Corinthians 1:7, Paul said, "You are not lacking in any gift."  It 
was how they fouled them up.  So a major segment of that first letter, 1 
Corinthians 12:13-14, directs itself at this terrible, terrible misuse of 
spiritual gifts.  The Corinthians, like the Charismatics today, had tended to 
equate the Holy Spirits work with ecstatic involuntary frenetic and 
mysterious activity.  And if it was inexplicable from the human level, they 
would say it was the Holy Spirit, even to the point that some people were 
cursing Jesus and they were saying it was the Holy Spirit because the 
phenomena seemed so bizarre.  The wilder and the more agitated the person 
was, the more godly and spiritual he was supposed to be.  They got to the 
point where in order for them to say it is the spirit, it had to be bizarre.  
Then there was the desire to be seen and the desire to appear as being 
spiritual.  People were exploiting and perverting the gift of tongues 
particularly, and counterfeiting it with ecstatic babble that came out of 
their past paganism.  They were confusing the work of the Holy Spirit with 
mystical practices they had known from their former pagan religion.  

You see for over a thousand years that part of the world had been dominated 
with the mystery religions.  The pagan mystery religions.  They can be traced 
all the way back to Babylon.  But they cultivated, all of them had this in 
common, they cultivated a magical, sensual, communion with deity.  The 
assumption in the mystery religions and their cultic kind of form of worship, 
was that you get yourself in some kind of state, a mindless kind of state, a 
transcendent kind of state, an irrational, not logical, not reasonable kind 
of mystical state, and when you get into that you will then commune with the 
deity.  You can do it through drunkenness and so they got drunk in the pagan 
religions.  You can do it through the passion of sexual involvement, and so 
there were priestesses who acted as temple prostitutes, and you could come in 
and throw yourself into an orgy.  And in the euphoria of that orgy, and in 
the stupor of being drunk, in the stupor of that whole event, supposedly you 
were to commune with deity.  

Paul has that in mind, certainly in Ephesians 5, when he says, "Do not be 
drunk with wine, in which is excess, but be filled with the Spirit."  If you 
really want to connect with God, be filled with the Spirit, don't be drunk.  
They would do almost anything to get into a semiconscious, hallucinatory, 
hypnotic, or orgiastic spell, because they believed that somehow that got 
them in touch with deity.  This is not very far different than going back 
into the 60's in the drug culture, and the things Timothy Leary tried to say 
about how you transcend this world and touch the divine, and what the Eastern 
Mystics were saying, as they were advocating the same kind of stuff.  Whether 
from literal intoxication, or some kind of emotional hysteria, or 
exhilaration, worshipers falling into some kind of euphoria assumed they were 
then in union with the deity.  

According to S. Angus, once professor of New Testament and Historical 
Theology at Saint Andrews College at Sidney, the ecstasy experience by the 
mystery religion worshiper, brought him into 

      A mystic ineffable condition, in which the normal functions of 
      personality were in abeyance, and the moral strivings which 
      formed character, virtually ceased or were relaxed, while the 
      emotional and the intuitive were accentuated.

In other words, the worshiper would get into a state where his mind would go 
into neutral and his emotions would take over.  The intellect and the 
conscious would give way to passion, sentiment, and emotion.  This was 
ecstasy.  Angus further said, 

      Ecstasy might be induced by vigil and fasting, tense religious 
      expectancy, whirling dances, physical stimuli, the contemplation 
      of the sacred objects, the effect of stirring music, inhalation 
      of fumes, revivalistic contagion, hallucinations, suggestions 
      and all other means belonging to the apparatus of the mysteries.  
      One ancient writer speaks of men going out of themselves to be 
      wholly established in the divine.

It is exactly what happened in Corinth and it is still going on today.  As 
the mystery worshiper experienced such ecstasy, he believed he was lifted 
above the level of his ordinary experience into an abnormal sense of 
consciousness and therein he could really see God.  And according to Angus 
again, he says, "Ecstasy could range anywhere from nonmoral delirium to that 
consciousness of oneness with the invisible, and the dissolution of painful 
individuality which marks the mystics of all ages."  The person literally 
became irrational, unreasonable, out of touch with reality.  I don't think it 
is too far afield to say that there are testimonies by Pentecostal 
Charismatic believers that seem to me to sound very much like this.  They 
explain their various states of euphoria as engaging in communion with the 
Holy Spirit, but is it that?  Certainly not by Biblical definition.  Is it 
only an emotional high?  Is it only some kind of psychological self-induced 
hypnosis?  Is it only falling under the spell of the power of suggestion?  Or 
is it demonic?  In any case it is not Biblical.  It certainly isn't, "Come 
now let us reason together, says the Lord."  It certainly is not, "Let 
everything be done decently and in order."

The problem Paul dealt with in Corinth is the same problem he deals with 
through his letters in the charismatic movement today.  The problem is this: 
"How do you tell the real from the counterfeit?"  And the only answer I have 
to you, Beloved, is to take it to the Word of God--and if it isn't there, it 
isn't real.  That's the only place we can go.  You certainly can't believe 
experience.  Why?  Because "Many will say, 'Lord, Lord,'" and they will 
prophesy in His name, and they will cast out demons in His name, and they 
will do miracles, at least what appear to be miracles, in His name.  But He 
will say "Depart from me, I never knew you.  Who are you?  You workers of 
iniquity."  We need to warn the true believers in the Charismatic movement 
that Satan is having a field day counterfeiting, because you're not checking 
with the Word, and because you are not using the mind that God has given you 
to understand His truth.  Christ is being dishonored.

Remember what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 12:2, he said to the Corinthians, 
"You are being led astray, just like you used to be.  You used to be led 
astray to dumb idols, led astray like a prisoner.  You were just led astray 
to your false gods.  Now, that you have become a believer, you can't let that 
happen.  You can't just throw yourself open and be carried away by demons in 
the ecstasies of these events."  The truly spiritual person is not someone 
who sweeps away into trances, ecstasies, emotional frenzies, who falls over 
in a dead faint.  The true spiritual person isn't somebody who goes into a 
glory cloud for 15 minutes, can't speak English, comes back and doesn't know  
he has been gone.  When a person is out of control, it is never the Holy 
Spirit!  The fruit of the Spirit is self-control (Galatians 5).  No where in 
Scripture do we see the real gifts of the Spirit operating when somebody is 
out of control, or when somebody is under a supernatural seizure.  

And so Beloved, as we look at this movement, we have to be concerned and 
literally sad in our hearts because of so many people being led astray in the 
Name of Christ.  But I guess that we should expect it.  My dad used to say, 
"Nobody counterfeits brown paper and sticks, because brown paper and sticks 
aren't worth counterfeiting.  They don't have any value.  Wherever you see a 
counterfeit," he used to say to me, "just be sure there is a real, because 
people only counterfeit what's real, and they only counterfeit what's 
valuable."  Counterfeiters copy what's valuable and what is priceless in the 
Church.  Listen to me, what is priceless in the Church is the true work of 
the Spirit, and the true gifts of the Spirit, and the true ministry of the 
Spirit.  And how tragic it is that a whole generation of people are cut off 
from the reality because they bought the counterfeit.  Many of these people 
have been saved but they are part of a system that cuts them off from the 
true working of God's Spirit.  The Church will be built up when spiritual 
gifts are used properly; when the Scripture is understood properly, taught 
accurately; and when the believers are walking in the Spirit with self 
control, obeying the Word of God.  

Well, let's bow in a word of prayer.  Father, even as we have talked about 
these things tonight, we have been brought back again to the great foundation 
of your Word, where we must test everything.  Help us to know that it is not 
enough that someone lifts up your name and says, "Lord, Lord," and claims 
you.  It is not enough that they preach and cast out demons and do wondrous 
things.  They could be false prophets.  They could be sheep dressed up in 
prophet's garments, and the fruit of their life wouldn't support their 
claims, and someday you'll bring it to light.  Lord, give us discernment.  
There are many that you love, that belong to you who are swept up in this 
movement, tragically exposing themselves to error, demonic activity, 
confusion, and on the other hand, cutting themselves off from the true path 
of sanctification, the true work of the Spirit, and the true interpretation 
and proclamation of your word.  Lord, how tragic that they would be 
dispossessed of that and think they've come to a higher level of 
spirituality, when, in fact, it's a lower one.  And what they think is 
something more is really something less.

Father, I pray that you will bring clarity and sanity and the true work of 
the Spirit to bear upon the confusion, that you true Church may be delivered 
out of that confusion into the light of the true work of the blessed Spirit, 
whose task it is to move us from one level of glory to the next, evermore 
into the image of Christ.  In whose name we pray.  Amen.           

  
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