The following message was delivered at Grace Community Church in Panorama 
City, California, By John MacArthur Jr.  It was transcribed from the tape,
GC 90-52, titled "Charismatic Chaos" Part 1.   A copy of the tape can be 
obtained by writing, Word of Grace, P.O. Box 4000, Panorama City, CA 91412.

I have made every effort to ensure that an accurate transcription of the 
original tape was made.  Please note that at times sentence structure may 
appear to vary from accepted English conventions.  This is due primarily to 
the techniques involved in preaching and the obvious choices I had to make in 
placing the correct punctuation in the article.

It is my intent and prayer that the Holy Spirit will use this transcription 
of the sermon, "Charismatic Chaos" Part 1, to strengthen and encourage the 
true Church of Jesus Christ.

Scriptures quoted in this message are from the New American Standard Bible.



                         Charismatic Chaos - Part 1
                                     by
                               John MacArthur


We are going to embark upon a study of the Charismatic movement, the 
contemporary Charismatic movement that surrounds us in the Evangelical 
Church.  Back in 1977, to be exact, I preached a series on the movement, or 
maybe a little even before that year.  But a book came from it which I spent 
1977 writing.  That book was entitled, "The Charismatics."  And now we are 
about a dozen or more years beyond that publication, and I felt that it is 
time for an update.  And from this series will come another book entitled, 
"Charismatic Chaos."  I believe that book will be released sometime after the 
first of next year.  

So many Christians are confused by the theology and the experiences of 
Charismatic people.  And they have become so visible because of Christian 
television, radio, books, magazines, and because their ministries are so 
aggressive that we all are inundated by them through direct mail.  Television 
and the media has spread this movement, it has created for them a tremendous 
platform.  In fact, it is probably not far from the truth to say that most 
people would assume that Evangelical Christianity is what the Charismatic 
movement represents, because it is such an exposed movement.  

But we must deal with it in line with 1 Thessalonians 5:21, and that is to 
examine it carefully, to determine what is true and what is not.  Now as we 
embark upon this examination, I want you to know at the very outset, that I 
love my brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, and I have no intent to convey 
anything other than love for them.  I think in the movement there are many 
who are not genuinely saved, and I am equally concerned about their 
salvation.  My purpose is not to debate them, pitting our theology against 
theirs, but to call them to the test of Scripture, to drop what Amos called 
the "plumb line," to see if they are straight with the Word of God.  

I have to say at the very outset that a rather powerful intimidation factor 
works against those who wish to deal with this movement Biblically.  To 
critique Charismatic doctrine or practice is commonly viewed as inherently 
unloving, inherently unkind, inherently divisive, and even blasphemous.  I 
have personally been accused of blaspheming the Holy Spirit by calling this 
movement to the test of Scripture.  Anybody who wants to answer the movement; 
to confront the movement; to measure it by Scripture; can be intimidated.  
Because it is very hard, then, to find a platform to speak about the 
movement.  It runs almost rampant like wildfire.  

Charismatic extremist can promote almost any idea they chose on television, 
or on radio, or in their books.  And those who attempt to examine those in 
the light of Scripture are muzzled.  I have been waiting for many years on 
one of these Charismatic Talk Shows to hear the host say, "That's not true; 
that is not true.  That is not in the Word of God, we will not accept that.  
You cannot verify that by Scripture."  That never happens, no matter what is 
said.  It can be the most bizarre thing imaginable; it can be the most 
whimsical, the most self-generated interpretation of Scripture or experience, 
and no one ever stops and says, "Hold it!  That's error; that's heresy; 
that's not true!"  

The number one book on the Christian Book Selling List right now, this month, 
the latest one, is a misrepresentation of the ministry of the Holy Spirit.  
It is number one because so many Christians across America are buying it.  It 
is not a time to speak against this movement unless you want some flak and so 
I am getting ready for it, I guess.  But I am duty bound to assess everything 
according to the Word of God.  

Our radio program, "Grace to You," is heard on a network of 200 stations, 
being broadcast about 600 different times a day, and there are satellites 
that take it to even more stations.  Nearly all of the stations that we are 
on and all of the broadcasting mediums that we use would share our doctrinal 
perspective; they would share our doctrinal commitment to the sufficiency of 
Scripture.  Yet, most of them "back out" at broadcasting any series on 
passages that confront Charismatic error.  Most of them would agree not only 
on the sufficiency of Scripture, but they would probably even agree on our 
theology with regard to the Holy Spirit, Signs, Wonders, Miracles, and 
Tongues, but they simply do not want to offend.  

Here is a typical letter, and I am quoting, written to us, 

    "Please reconsider your policy of dealing with the Charismatic 
    movement and other controversial topics on your radio broadcasts.  
    Though we share your convictions on these issues, many of our 
    listeners do not.  These people are dear brothers and sisters in 
    Christ and we do not feel that it is helpful to the cause of 
    Christ to attack what they believe.  We are committed to keeping 
    peace among brethren and unity in the Body of Christ.  Thank you 
    for being sensitive to these concerns."  

"It is not helpful to the cause of Christ to attack error anymore," that's 
what it says.  "It is not helpful to these dear brothers and sisters in 
Christ to attack what they believe, even though it is wrong."  It is more 
helpful, under this philosophy, "to let them remain in error."  "We are 
committed to keeping peace, even if peace means error, and finding unity even 
if unity means heresy.  Thank you for being sensitive to our desire to 
maintain heresy if it must be maintained for the sake of unity!

Apparently, these people, while being "Dear Brothers and Sisters," are not 
dear enough to deserve to be taught the truth.  Does real Christian love 
leave them in a spiritually debilitating error, thus out of God's will and 
out of the place of blessing, misrepresenting God's sacred truth?  Is that 
love that calls us to do that?  But this is the kind of thinking that 
pervades the Church.  In effect, it has given Charismatic extremists the 
freedom to propound fantastic views while imposing a code of silence on all 
who object.  

The legacy of such an attitude is not unity, and the legacy of such an 
attitude is not peace, believe me; it is confusion, it is turmoil, and it is 
chaos.  How so?  Churches, Mission Agencies, Schools, and other Christian 
organizations that have tried to maintain unity by not confronting 
Charismatic influence, and thus allowing it to come in never to be dealt 
with, ultimately will all have to sacrifice their Non-Charismatic position or 
split the organization.  It does not bring unity, it brings the exact 
opposite.  Because, inevitably, you have the "haves," the Charismatics who 
feel that they have reached a higher level, and the "have nots."  And you 
have pitted two theologies against each other.  One gives in or it splits.

It is not unkind to analyze Christians' doctrinal difference in the light of 
Scripture.  That is not unkind; that is kind.  We have a mandate from God to 
do this, even if it involves rebuking certain people by name because they are 
so well known.  The Apostle Paul writing in Philippians 4 says, "I urge 
Euodia and I urge Syntyche to live in harmony in the Lord."  And then he 
says, "True comrade, help those women."  He identifies two cantankerous, 
troublemaking, disagreeable women in the congregation who were to be publicly 
rebuked for all times, for their names have occupied a place in the permanent 
record.  

In 1 Timothy 1:20, Paul identifies Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom he had 
delivered over to Satan, that they may be taught not to blaspheme.  In 2 
Timothy 2:17, he identified Hymenaeus and Philetus, who gone astray from the 
truth and made up some kind of Spiritual resurrection, upsetting the faith of 
some.  In 3 John, that little epistle, he identifies another man, by the name 
of Diotrephes, "who loves to be first among them, and does not accept what we 
say."  

When it comes down to the integrity of the Church, and when it comes down to 
what is right and what is true, the Scripture will even name people publicly 
and for the record, to be eternally embedded in the pages of Scripture, who 
stand in the way of the movement of truth.  Real love and real unity, and 
real peace, are bound up with truth.  Love apart from truth is hypocritical 
sentimentality.  And that kind of thing is frankly at an epidemic level.  A 
kind of sentimentality that does not want to confront truth.  But remembering 
again the words of Ephesians 4:15, "we are to speak the truth in love."  That 
is how the body "grows up in all aspects into Him, who is the head, even 
Christ."  

Criticizing the Charismatic movement by Scriptural comparison should be 
welcomed since truth that pleases God is the only concern that is valid.  
Now, my purpose is not to mock; my purpose is simply to correct.  In my first 
book I was accused of using bizarre examples; that was not true.  But some 
accused me of using bizarre examples of the Charismatic movement.  As I have 
accumulated data over the past number of years since that first book, and in 
going through that data more recently, I find that what we have now is even 
more bizarre, and yet still commonplace.  More visible now, more common now 
with no end in sight.  

When I was driving through the city of Dallas on Friday, I noticed a number 
of huge billboards on all sides of the city as I was trekking back and forth 
in meetings.  And they were advertising the name of a man, Robert Tilton.  
Robert Tilton preaches every Sunday in Dallas, and he will mail you a miracle 
coin which by the way, is actually worthless; but it is a miracle coin.  He 
has mailed them to hundreds of thousands of people promising them a financial 
miracle if they will send him, quote, "A check for the best possible gift you 
can give."  And then there is a reminder in this mailing, quote, "Only you 
and God know what your best gift is."  A little intimidation there, and if 
you will send for him the best gift you can give, you will get a miracle coin 
that guarantees you a miracle.  A Secular paper calls Tilton's Television 
program, quote, "The fastest growing empire in religious television."  The 
things that he promises and says are absolutely bizarre, and yet the bizarre 
has become the commonplace.

An associate of mine attended a Charismatic Businessmen's meeting in Chicago, 
where a Catholic Priest testified that Mary, the mother of Jesus, had given 
him the gift of tongues while he was saying his rosary.  Then the Charismatic 
pastor, leading the meeting, rose and said, and I quote, "What an amazing 
testimony that is.  Aren't you glad that God isn't bound by any ideas by 
what's doctrinally acceptable?  Some people would try to dismiss this 
brother's testimony just because it doesn't jibe with their doctrinal system, 
but how you get filled with the Holy Ghost doesn't matter, as long as you 
know that you have got the Baptism.  Even if you got it from Mary while 
saying your rosary, it has to be legitimate."  The audience, by the way, 
numbering in the hundreds, broke into wild affirmation and applause.  

It is too easy to say that any critique of this movement is unfair and 
unkind.  It is too easy to say that and silence the Non-Charismatic, and 
leave people in confusion, and let the movement spread unchecked even more 
and more and more and then become exempt from Biblical criticism.  Beloved, I 
want to tell you that it is all over the globe.  All over the globe.  
Everywhere I go in the world I find that they have been making massive 
inroads.  

I was talking to a man in our church this morning who had for a number of 
years worshiped here and then had returned to his native Scotland, living 
just out of Edinburgh.  And I said, "Have you found a church?"  And he said, 
"Well, yes we have."  And I said, "Is it one of the Scottish Baptist Churches 
(knowing that most of the Scottish Presbyterian Churches are long gone 
liberal, with of course some exceptions)?  He said, "No, it is not a Baptist 
Church.  For the most part, most of the Baptist Churches have moved into the 
Charismatic Movement.  Scotland.

It is a major problem in Eastern Europe and will continue to be one.  It is a 
problem in Australia.  It is a problem is Asia.  It is a problem of massive 
proportions in Latin America.  It is everywhere, confusing millions of 
people.  The Russian Church now is waiting patiently for the finishing of 
this book, and they want the manuscript even before the American Publisher 
publishes it because they desperately need it translated into the Russian 
Language and distributed immediately in the Soviet Union because of the 
rampant confusion about these matters.

Fantastic encounters with Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are claimed as 
commonplace; personal messages from God are routine; healings of all kinds 
are claimed; miracles occur, everything from puppies being raised from the 
dead; wash machines being healed; empty gas tanks and teeth are filled not 
with the same thing); people are slain in the Holy Spirit; people go to 
Heaven and go to Hell--comeback.  There are some today who even say that the 
Church can't do effective evangelism without such phenomena, without such 
signs and wonders and miracles.  The gospel, they say, is weak without signs 
and wonders and this is the emphasis, by the way, of what they call the Third 
Wave.   

Charismatics say, "If you are not in the movement, then you have no right to 
evaluate the movement."  Howard Ervin (sp.), a Baptist pastor wrote some 
years ago, quote, 

    "The attempt to interpret the Charismatics manifestations of the 
    Holy Spirit, without a Charismatic experience is as fatuous as the 
    application of the Christian ethic apart from a regenerate 
    dynamic.  Understanding of spiritual truth is predicated upon 
    spiritual experience.  The Holy Spirit does not reveal spiritual 
    secrets to the uncommitted."

There is the ploy they use, "Well, we would expect you to be against it since 
you haven't had the experience."  That is Gnosticism.  That is believing that 
you have been elevated to a higher level of comprehension which the 
uninitiated have no understanding.  Rodman Williams, who has written a number 
of books and who was once the president of a local Charismatic school, and I 
quote said, "Any vital information concerning the Gifts of the Spirit, the 
Pneumatic Charismata, predisposes a participation in them.  Without such a 
participation, whatever is said about the Gifts may only result in confusion 
and error."  If you haven't had it, you have no right to talk about it.  One 
pastor said to me, "You talk exactly like one who never had the experience.  
You are speaking out of ignorance."  I wonder if they feel that way talking 
about Heaven, Hell, murder, adultery, homosexuality, and numerous other 
subjects.  Do we have to have that experience too?

My experience and your experience is not the test or proof of Biblical truth, 
it is the reverse--Biblical truth must validate or invalidate any experience.  
Doctrinally, it is almost impossible to define the Charismatic movement.  It 
almost resists theology.  It resists categorization because it has such a 
wide and growing spectrum of viewpoints.  If they don't rightly divide the 
Word of God they are not going to come to a proper Systematic Theology.  If 
they determine what is true because of their own experiences then there is no 
limit to the theology; it will take whatever form experience takes.  And so 
what you have is a very amorphous kind of volatile changing systems of 
beliefs that ebbs and flows and rises and falls and refuses to find any 
structure.  

The Charismatic movement is achieving, by the way, what the liberal 
Ecumenical movement tried for years to achieve, and that is a unity that is 
indifferent to doctrinal truth.  And so I say there is intimidation as we 
approach this study because we are not supposed to have the right to do this, 
since we haven't had the experience.  We are not suppose to do it because it 
isn't loving and it isn't gracious and it doesn't make for unity.  And so, I 
just want you to know that I acknowledge the effort to intimidate, and I 
reject that.  I do not believe, furthermore, that I have to have some kind of 
experiences in order to understand what the Bible says about them.  I haven't 
walked on water, but I can understand what it says when it says that Jesus 
did.

Doctrinally, we must have structure, we must have sound doctrine.  We cannot 
fall prey to a system that resists any doctrinal categorization.  But see, 
once you allow experience to be the test of truth, then you can't limit 
doctrine to the pages of Scripture.  

Now, just a brief history.  Historically, the Charismatic movement is the 
child of the Pentecostal movement.  That began about 1900 and it went along 
for about 60 years and the Pentecostal Churches were primarily the Assemblies 
of God, the Four Square Church, and then there were some other smaller 
groups, the United Pentecostal group and so forth.  But they were basically 
off to themselves.  People used to call them the "Holy Rollers."  They were a 
kind of a unique group that did not mainstream at all in Evangelical 
Christianity because of their strange beliefs.  

In 1960 a remarkable thing happened.  In 1960, not far from here, in Saint 
Mark's Episcopal Church in Van Nuys, California, Rector Dennis Bennett 
supposedly got the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.  And what happened was 
Pentecostalism jumped out of its own box and landed in Episcopalianism, and 
for the first time it transcended its denominational definitions.  Since that 
time it has moved through the major denominations like a flood.  It went 
beyond historical Pentecostal denominations and has continued to do that.  
That second movement is called the Charismatic Movement.  They borrowed that 
concept of Charismatic because it is associated with the Gifts of the Holy 
Spirit given to the believer.  

But the Charismatic Movement can't be defined doctrinally.  Why?  Because it 
involves Pentecostals, Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans, Episcopalians, 
Presbyterians, Roman Catholics, anybody and everybody.  So it resists, and 
has resisted any kind of doctrinal definition that is too rigid.  What they 
all hold in common is an experience which they will call the Baptism of the 
Holy Spirit.  And they wrongly define the Baptism of the Holy Spirit as a 
post salvation experience that adds something to your Christian life that you 
previously didn't have, and is usually is accompanied by signs and wonders, 
most particularly speaking in tongues.  And we are going to talk much more 
about the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and Tongues at a later time.  But once 
you have had that experience, you have sort of jumped into this new level of 
spiritual awareness, and you have reached the level of the Charismatic.

Without this experience, a Christian is second class.  So, you have the 
"spiritual haves" and the "spiritual have nots."  I remember being sent a 
tape of a "talk radio program" by Walter Martin, when he was still alive, and 
he was interviewing Rodman Williams at the time; and for some reason they got 
to talking about me because I had written a book on the Charismatics (and 
both of them were certainly favorable to the Charismatic movement) and they 
were discussing what I had said in the book and how that I really didn't 
understand the movement.  And Rodman Williams, on the tape said, "Well I'll 
tell you one thing, I don't know who this man is but God will never bless his 
life or his ministry."  And there was a moment of silence, to which Walter 
Martin simply replied, because he knew me and he knew the ministry, "I think 
you have gone too far in saying that!"

But the bottom line is, that's what they have to say because if you haven't 
reached that second level, then you are not participating in the fullness of 
the Spirit of God.  That's very intimidating to some Christians.  No miracles 
in your life, no spectacular revelations, Jesus never comes and talks to you, 
no signs, no wonders: What's wrong with you?  

I am convinced that these experiences are real in the sense that maybe they 
have some emotional reaction or maybe there is something that they are 
feeling at the time, but that they do not follow a Biblical pattern, they are 
not authored by God, and they do not lift someone to a higher level.  Now 
what that means then, is that since they are not really true in terms of 
moving people into genuine spirituality, since they do not increase your 
understanding of the Word or your true knowledge of God they lead then to the 
need to exaggerate, dramatize, or even invent experiences just to keep up 
with everybody's expectations and just to be spiritual.  

One nationally known television Charismatic Evangelist was recently 
discovered using a hidden receiver in his ear, you remember that, a man named 
Poppoff (sp.) through which his wife was broadcasting information supposedly 
being revealed to him by the Holy Spirit as he stood in front of the 
audience.  Another healer was using the same "phony plants" in the crowd, in 
every city, and rehealing the same bunch from city to city to city.  Terrible 
sex scandals abound in the ostentatiously spirit filled Charismatic leaders 
circles.  Sexual scandals seem epidemic and catastrophic.  Admittedly, that 
can happen in any group but you would think it would happen less, not more, 
in those that have reached the higher level of spirituality, wouldn't you?  

Such scandals reveal the fact that pursuing signs and pursuing wonders, 
chasing spectacular experiences and speaking in tongues and reaching some 
plane of esoteric mystical feelings has led some leaders not only to be 
fraudulent, to be fake, but to miss the path to true spirituality, and 
consequently to be on the path to moral disaster.  You see, false standards 
of spirituality don't restrain the flesh.  Fundamental teachings of the 
Charismatic movement create an emphasis on the external and they foster bogus 
claims and false prophets and other forms of what I guess we could call 
spiritual humbug.  

Now, some of these people are sincere, but in the pursuit of experiences and 
emotions, and miracles, and signs and wonders, they begin to imagine all 
kinds of things and to falsify all kinds of things.  And I also believe that 
Satan invades with his deceptions.  Well, that just gives you a little 
feeling of what we are going to be dealing with.  I want to ask one question 
tonight and briefly answer it, that will take us into the flow of this 
subject.  

The first and foremost thing for us to consider is this question, "Is 
experience a valid test of truth?"  I know you know the answer to that, but I 
want to help frame it up so you can understand it fully.  Is experience a 
valid test of truth?  

A woman wrote to me seething with anger; this is what she said in her letter,

    "You resort to Greek translations and fancy words to explain away 
    what the Holy Spirit is doing in the Church today.  Let me give 
    you a piece of advice that might just save you from the wrath of 
    the Almighty God.  Put away your Bible and your books and stop 
    studying.  Ask the Holy Ghost to come upon you and give you the 
    gift of tongues.  You have no right to question something you've 
    never experienced."

Such an attitude prevails in the movement, the tendency to gauge truth by 
personal experience.  Now what about experience is there such a thing as a 
true spiritual experience?  Sure.  A true spiritual experience will be the 
result, listen carefully, will be the result of the quickening of truth in 
the Christian's mind.  And I will sum it up that way and I don't know of any 
better way to say it.  A true spiritual experience will be the result of the 
quickening of truth in the Christian's mind.  In other words, the Spirit all 
of a sudden gives dramatic life to a truth.  It does not occur in a mystical 
vacuum.  

In an authentic spiritual experience there are emotions and feelings and 
senses, and I want you to know that I believe that and I understand that.  I 
have some absolutely exhilarating spiritual experiences.  And I have some 
very difficult experiences, very sad and heart wrenching experiences.  And I 
am not talking about an emotional experience or an earthly experience, some 
kind of worldly thing.  I am talking about a spiritual experience.  I have 
them and I hope you have them.  God has given us our emotions so that we can 
respond to His truth.  But I do not have an experience that is godly, that 
leads me to truth in a vacuum.  I have an experience in response to truth.  

Let me show you what I mean.  Here is one kind of spiritual experience: 
strong feelings of remorse over sin.  Have you had that experience?  You go 
along in life on a fairly even keel, you go along fairly happy and content 
and satisfied and you've got the ability to balance your sorrow with your 
joy, and sort of keep your head above water.  But there are times in your 
life when you have felt strong remorse over your sin.  That is an experience 
that was generated by the truth of the Word of God quickened to your heart by 
the Holy Spirit.  Right?  That was the case in Luke 18:13 where the man who 
was a publican, was in the corner of the Temple beating on his breast crying, 
"God, be merciful to me, the sinner!"  Why?  Having been exposed to the truth 
about his sin, his spirit was quickened and he had an experience of 
conviction.  He had an experience of remorse.  He had a tearful experience of 
repentance.

Another kind of spiritual experience you might have would be an almost 
inexplicable sense of trust in God in the midst of a traumatic situation.  An 
almost inexplicable sense of trust in God, peace, calm, in the midst of a 
traumatic situation.  I remember taking off in an airplane from LAX and when 
we were barely off the ground, maybe 100 feet, an engine blew up.  Now that 
is what I call a traumatic situation.  We had to go in a circle, dump fuel 
over the ocean and come back and land again, and then get out and get another 
plane.  But in the process, it was amazing the reality of the moment, the 
whole plane is shaking and everybody has heard the noise, everybody knows 
something dramatic has occurred, and to all of a sudden be literally 
overwhelmed.  The first question that came into my mind was, "Lord, are you 
sure that this is the right plane?  This is me, I am on this one, you know?  
That's my first response, and then I said, "No, no, the Lord knows, He's got 
an OAG guide, He knows the airline schedule.

In the middle of that kind of trauma, I was overcome with a mighty sense of 
trust in the sovereignty of God, and a perfect peace that came over me; and I 
began to anticipate the realities of Heaven.  Maybe, maybe that is a common 
experience at some point in time, in the life of any faithful true believer.  
In Acts 16, it was that kind of experience that the Apostle Paul had with 
Silas.  They were put in stocks, that means their limbs were stretched to the 
limit, and locked in at a stretched point.  There legs were pulled as far 
apart as they could go, like a wishbone and then stuck in the stocks and 
locked there, so that the muscle pain would be indescribable, unimaginable.  
Their arms the same way, and there they were locked awaiting their execution, 
and it says they were praying and singing hymns of praise to God.  That's a 
spiritual experience where the Spirit of God has quickened to their hearts 
the great reality that their God is near, their God loves them, God is in 
control of everything, and that confidence gives them a song to sing in the 
night.  That's an experience.

Maybe, maybe there are times when you have had an overpowering peace in the 
midst of trouble, that made your spirit totally calm like that.  Certainly 
Paul had it.  He said, "I have learned that in whatsoever state I am to be 
content."  And he said, "If you just learn to go to the Lord with everything, 
He will give you perfect peace.  Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by 
prayer and supplication let your requests be made known to God.  And the 
peace of God," right?  "Will grant to you His peace."

Even in the face of death there is an overwhelming joy and peace that can 
come over us.  Stephen is there under the bloody stones as they crush out his 
life, "Lord, lay not this sin to their charge.  Don't blame them for this."  
Quietly he reposes in rests.  And then there is that other kind of spiritual 
experience, that Paul had in Romans 9:1-3, where he said, "I have such a deep 
and profound longing and sorrow and unceasing grief in my heart for the 
salvation of Israel, that I could almost wished myself accursed, if it could 
mean their redemption."  Have you had that experience?  Have you ever wept 
over the lost?  

I remember one time as a little boy, the first time it ever hit me.  I was 
sitting in a campfire and I became overwhelmed after hearing a message about 
lost people.  I think I was about 12, and I couldn't control the tears, and I 
just began to weep over the lostness of people.  That was a spiritual 
experience, as the Spirit of God quickened to my heart something true from 
His Word--the lostness of man, the sovereignty of God in the midst of my 
trouble, the great peace that He gives, confidence in His care, repentance 
and remorse over my sin, all of those kinds of things.  

On the other hand, Have you ever rejoiced to the point where you could almost 
not contain your joy because somebody you loved so much had come to Christ?  
That's a spiritual experience.  Have you ever just contemplated the glory of 
God, and found yourself singing hymns to him in praise because you were so 
exhilarated?  Have you ever gone into a ministry and knowing that the Spirit 
of God was on you and you were going to go and preach His truth, and felt 
that you couldn't wait to get there, and when you got there you thought you 
might tear the pulpit to pieces because of the joy, the exhilaration of what 
you are about to do?  

I don't want anybody to think for a moment that I don't have a spiritual 
experience.  People sometimes think I'm sort of cold and calculating, but I 
am very emotional about those things.  Spiritual experience by definition is 
an internal feeling.  It is an internal feeling that involves strong emotion 
in response to God's truth, amplified by the Spirit and applied to me 
personally.  That's a true spiritual experience.  

Now what is a false spiritual experience?  That's the experience that 
supposedly leads me to the truth.  This must be true because look what I 
experienced.  That's backwards!  The Charismatic movement errors because it 
tends to build its teaching on experiences, as John Wimber (sp.) said, "We 
are cataloging all of our experiences so we can develop a theology."  They do 
not understand that authentic experience happens in response to truth and 
anything that doesn't square up with the revealed truth of the Word of God is 
not authentic, not of God.  Too many of their experiences are detached from 
truth and they lead to false conclusions.  

I spent a couple of hours with a prominent, well known, Charismatic pastor 
last Sunday afternoon.  I asked him a number of questions, and every time I 
asked him a question he answered me with an experience.  Visions, dreams, 
prophecies, words of knowledge, private messages from God, are the real 
authority in that movement.  And Scripture, when used at all, is typically 
employed for proof texts or twisted to fit some novel opinion.  And many 
Scriptures, beloved, are literally mauled.  

Kenneth Copeland was teaching on Mark 10, The Rich Young Ruler, and of course 
Kenneth Copeland teaches that Jesus wants everybody rich.  Jesus wants 
everybody healthy, wealthy, prosperous--big house, big car, big wardrobe, big 
bank account.  It's hard to teach that from the Rich Young Ruler because 
Jesus said to him, "Sell all you have, give to the poor, come and follow Me."  
It doesn't fit too well in that text.  So how's he going to handle it?  Well, 
he twisted the text to make it seem to say that God wants His people wealthy.  
Jesus' words in verse 21 are very clear, Mark 10, "One thing you lack: go and 
sell all possess, and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in 
heaven; and come, follow Me."  "Turn in your worldly treasure for heavenly 
treasure."  Here's Copeland's comment and I quote, "This is the biggest 
financial deal that young man had ever been offered, but he walked away from 
it because he didn't know God's system of finance."  What?  What he is trying 
to imply there is that if he had given away everything God would have made 
him richer.  It doesn't say that.  

The claims these people make just go on and on.  I don't know if you read 
about Percy Colette (sp.) a Charismatic Medical Missionary, claims that in 
1982 he was transported to Heaven for five and a half days.  A newsletter 
describes the story,

    While Christianity abounds with accounts of glimpses of the other 
    dimension from those who have had out of body experiences, Dr. 
    Colette's is unlike these.  Obviously, he was caught up in the 
    third heaven even as Paul was, the difference being, Paul was not 
    allowed to utter the things he saw and heard, while Dr. Colette 
    was.  Colette offers video tapes detailing his sojourn in Heaven 
    and his accounts are peculiar indeed.  Quote, "Everything God 
    created on the earth is in Heaven, Horses, cats, dogs.  Everything
    that He created on earth is in Heaven, in the way of animals, only 
    these are perfect.  For example, the dogs don't bark."  

    Further, he says, "You don't need plumbing.  You can go to the 
    Banqueting House and eat all you want and no plumbing is needed."  
    Colette then describes the "Pity Department."  The "Pity 
    Department" is place the souls of aborted babies go and also some 
    severely retarded babies and it here that these little souls are 
    trained for a period of time before they go before the Throne of 
    God.  

    Then he claims he saw the "Record Room," an immense area where all 
    to idle words spoken by Christians are being retained until after 
    Christians give an account of them or are judged, at which time 
    these will be emptied into the "Sea of Forgetfulness."'  Colette 
    then describes the "Garment Room," where angels are sewing our 
    robes, and Mansions under construction.  And he found the "Holy 
    Ghost Elevator" and many other astonishing sights.  

    He adds one more detail, "While I was traveling back to earth, I 
    saw two girls, one brunette and one a redhead.  We stopped to talk 
    to them, that is their 'soul bodies' on the way back.  We had 
    asked them what had happen to them?  And they indicated that they 
    had gotten killed in a car accident on the California Highway and 
    their physical bodies were in a funeral home.  They said their 
    mother was weeping over them, so would I please tell her they were 
    ok?"  Dr. Colette feels that he has conclusive proof to verify 
    that tale.  "About a year later I went to that area where the 
    mother lived and was giving this testimony, a mother jumped up in 
    the congregation and said that's a description of my daughters!  I 
    told her she shouldn't fret, that her daughters are in that 
    wonderful place, we saw them on the way to Heaven."  She said, 
    "She would never cry again." 

    After Dr. Colette lectured on Heaven to his third straight 
    standing room audience in Montgomery, Alabama, he offered to take 
    questions from the floor.  The first question was something I 
    admit I had never contemplated.  The question was, "I'm a Cowboy, 
    will there be Rodeos in Heaven?"  Dr. Colette was ready with an 
    answer, "There are horses in Heaven, beautiful horses, they are 
    all praising God, there is no foolishness in Heaven.  I am not 
    saying that a Rodeo is foolish, but there is no Will Rodgers style 
    acting up there."

Just the silliness of these kinds of things that find their way into print.  
By the way excursions to Heaven and back have become almost chic in that 
movement, the ultimate experience for those who want something unusual, and 
many say that they have made the trip.  On April 11, 1977, a Charismatic 
television network in Los Angeles, carried an interview with Dr. Richard Ebee 
(sp.) who claimed to have died gone to Heaven and come back again.  According 
to Dr. Ebee he fell off a balcony, struck his head and was supposedly dead.  
He reported,

    "He experienced Paradise.  His formerly weak eyes needed no 
    glasses, now he could see for a hundred miles.  His body took a 
    wonderful quality, he could move anywhere at will, he was visible 
    yet transparent.  Dr. Ebee said he found some flowers, broke them 
    off and noticed they had no water in their stems because Jesus is 
    the Living Water.  The aroma of Heaven was especially overwhelming 
    with the sweet savor of sacrifices, Ebee said.  He discussed the 
    fact that the human brain has twelve cranial nerves and then added 
    that those twelve nerves represent the twelve tribes of Israel.  
    Furthermore, he said that the number one nerve in God's cranium is 
    the sense of smell.  Ebee said he learned that the whole purpose 
    of sacrifice was to send a sweet aroma up to Heaven to satisfy 
    God's main cranial nerve."

In regard, by the way, in regard to that kind of silliness, in regard to the 
twelve cranial nerves representing the twelve tribes of Israel, it would be 
just about as reasonable to say, "That because you have ten toes, the bottom 
half of your body has the image of the Beast mentioned in Daniel, chapter 2 
and chapter 7."  By the way, I checked with a medical doctor on the twelve 
cranial nerves, and found that actually there are twelve pairs, which makes 
twenty four, so perhaps it would be better to say that they correspond to the 
twenty four elders.  

And I know that it is hard to resist chuckling at these things because they 
are so foolish.  The reason we chuckle is because we know that it is so far 
fetched, so strange.  But you see, Charismatics have no way to judge and they 
have no way to stop those kinds of things.  They can't stop that because the 
system validates experience, and the truth rises from the experience.  And so 
they spend their time trying to get the Bible to fit their experience.  

Dudley Danielson, in the "National Courier," a Charismatic newspaper, ran an 
ad.  This is the ad, 

    "A Genuine Photograph of the Lord!  Yes, I believe I have one 
    recorded on film.  In mid-summer I awoke at 3:30 am to a strong 
    voice thought impression, 'Go and photograph my sunrise.'  Beside 
    the river I set up my camera; waited for the sun, and that predawn 
    I felt so very close to God, perfect peace.  On one negative is 
    the perfect shape of a figure, arms raised in blessing, as 
    reflected in the water, exactly opposite every other shadow.  I 
    believe God gave me an image of Himself to share."  

The item is signed Dudley Danielson, Photographer, and you can get a picture 
of God for only $9.95.  Doesn't seem to bother Dudley that the Bible says, 
"No man has seen God at any time."  Nor does it appear to matter to him that 
the Bible says that, "God is spirit," and "No man can see me and live."  It's 
no different than people who think they see Jesus on a Pizza Billboard.  Such 
extreme examples are not uncommon.  In the November 1990 issue of Charisma 
Magazine, which is the most popular magazine in the movement, there is a 
claim made by a lady named Aline Baxley (sp.), an ex-alcoholic and drug 
addict, who says she has been to Hell and God brought her back to tell her 
story.

Experience after experience is reported in the Charismatic press, television, 
radio.  A subtle but sinister pattern is developing.  Instead of responding 
to a proper interpretation of God's Holy Word, Christianity is collecting 
preposterous tales producing a pseudo-Christian mysticism that's more like 
Hinduism and the New Age, than it is Biblical Christianity.  And that's why I 
quoted the woman who wrote me and said, "Put away your Bible, your books and 
stop studying."  Feelings are more important than the eternal Word of God.  
Intuition surpasses interpretation.  This is a tragic thing.

Now in a quick conclusion.  When we turn to the Scripture, does the Scripture 
validate experience as the proper source for truth?  Look at 2 Peter, and 
I'll just give you a couple of Scriptures because we have covered these.  In 
2 Peter 1:16, Peter says, "We did not follow cunningly devised tales when we 
made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were 
eyewitnesses of His majesty.  For when He received honor and glory from God 
the Father, such an utterance as this was made to Him by the Majestic Glory, 
'This is My beloved Son with whom I am well-pleased.'--and we ourselves heard 
this utterance made from Heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain."  
Stop at that point.

Peter says, "Look, I going to write in this Second Epistle about the Second 
Coming of Christ.  I am going to write about His coming glory, His coming 
majesty, and I want you to know that I am not talking about something that I 
don't know about, because this is not some tale that God passed down.  I was 
an eyewitness along with the other Apostles of His Second Coming Power and 
Glory."  When did you see it?  "On the mountain."  What mountain? " The 
Mount of" what?  "Transfiguration."  

Matthew 17, Jesus took the disciples into a mountain and He was transfigured 
before them, and they saw the Shekinah Glory of God.  We saw it!  We were 
there!  And the voice out of heaven, "This is My beloved Son with whom I am 
well-pleased."  That is an amazing experience, an amazing experience.  Peter 
said, "I had an experience, I saw the glorified Christ in His Second Coming 
Majesty.  I saw the Shekinah Glory shining through Him, I heard the voice of 
God saying, 'This is My beloved Son with whom I am well pleased.'"  You 
could make a career today just going around telling that experience.  But look 
what he says, verse 19, "But we have a more sure word of prophecy."  We have 
the even surer prophetic word, is the proper translation.

What is more sure than experience?  The Word!  Peter's point is precisely the 
issue that many Charismatics fail to understand.  The pilgrimage from 
experience to experience, more and more spectacular is not only frustrating, 
it is counter productive spiritually.  Peter says, "I had an experience, a 
real one.  But I have a more sure word than my own senses.  I can't even 
trust my own senses in a real experience of seeing the glory of Christ.  And 
so he says, "We have a more sure word and you do well to pay attention to 
that as a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning 
star arises in your hearts."  Until Christ comes in His day, you better stick 
with the Word because, verse 20 says, "It didn't come by any private 
interpretation.  It isn't somebody's experience.  It isn't somebody's 
emotion.  It isn't what somebody feels.  "No, no prophecy was ever made by an 
act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God."

If you want human experience articulated, you can have it.  Peter says, I'll 
take the more sure word, the Word of God, not of human origin, not of human 
interpretation, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.  I'll take 
God's Word over your word or even mine.  Peter was no Charismatic, no 
Charismatic.
 33 
Psalm 19, another Scripture that must be dealt with.  In Psalm 19:7-9, the 
Psalmist writes, "The law of the lord is perfect, restoring the soul; the 
testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.  The precepts of the 
Lord are right, rejoicing the heart; the commandment of the Lord is pure, 
enlightening the eyes.  The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever; the 
judgments of the Lord are true; they are righteous altogether."  You have six 
titles for Scripture; it is called the "Law of the Lord;" the "Testimony of 
the Lord;" the "Precepts of the Lord;" the "Commandment of the Lord;" the 
"Fear of the Lord;" and the "Judgments of the Lord."  Two of those in each of 
those three verses.  Psalm 19:7-9.

Now, you'll notice this, he is talking then about the Scripture.  He sees it 
as law.  It is God's Law for man's conduct.  He sees it as testimony.  It's 
God's personal testimony to who He is.  He sees it as precepts, principles 
for life.  He sees it as commandment; it is binding.  He sees it as fear; 
that is instruction on worship.  He sees it as judgment, or verdicts from the 
divine bench on the destiny of man.  Scripture is all of that, but notice 
what the Scripture is in terms of its character.  It is perfect, sure, right, 
pure, clean, true.  You can trust it.  All six of those characteristics.  It 
is perfect, sure, right, pure, clean, true.  And it will restore the soul, 
make wise the simple, rejoice the heart, enlighten the eyes, endure forever, 
and produce comprehensive righteousness.  

That's why Jesus said, "If they don't believe the Word of God that came 
through the prophets, they won't believe even though someone," what?  "Is 
raised from the dead."  He was and they didn't believe.  Miracles don't make 
people believe.  Signs and wonders don't make people believe, they never did.  
If a man does not believe the Word, he is not going to believe some 
experience.  

Look at John, chapter 14, and see what Jesus said about whether experience is 
the issue.  John 14:6, Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the 
life; no man comes to the Father, but through Me.  If you had known Me, you 
would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.  
Philip said to Him, 'Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.'"  Do 
a miracle!  Show us God!  Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, 
and you haven't come to know Me Philip?  He who has seen Me has seen the 
Father."  What are you saying, "Show us the Father for?"  In other words, I 
have told you all you need to know.  You don't need a sign and a wonder.  You 
don't need some mystical and ecstatic vision of God.  I've told you all you 
need to know!  I've demonstrated it in my life and my teaching.  

Paul was no Charismatic either, believe me.  Paul was no Charismatic.  He 
made divine truth the beginning and the ending of his ministry.  It was the 
preaching of the truth revealed to him by the Spirit of God.  Acts 17:2, 
"According to Paul's custom, he went to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned 
with them from the Scriptures, explaining and giving evidence that the Christ 
had to suffer and rise again from the dead, and saying, 'This Jesus whom I am 
proclaiming to you is the Christ.'"  He was explaining the Scripture, he was 
delineating the Scripture.  He had an experience.  He went to Heaven!  But 
God said, "You are not allowed to," what?  "You're not allowed to talk about 
it!"  "I don't want anybody basing anything on your interpretation, on your 
experience."  Paul never built his ministry on his visions, his experiences.  
He built it on what he knew was the revealed truth of God, and he called into 
question any experience that violated Scripture. 33 

The end of his ministry in the 28th chapter of Acts, we find him at his 
lodging, and people were there in large numbers; and he was explaining to 
them by solemnly testifying about the kingdom of God, and trying to persuade 
them concerning Jesus, from both the Law of Moses and from the Prophets, from 
morning until evening.  He was in the Scripture trying to prove the truth 
from the pages of the Word of God.  

Charismatics, like Jews of Paul's day have zeal without knowledge.  
Enthusiasm without enlightenment.  They are often approaching truth without 
their minds, without thinking.  Some even claim that God deliberately gives 
people unintelligible tongues in order to bypass and thus humble the proud 
human intellect.  Beloved this is a serious and tragic error.  Clark Pinock 
(sp.) once said, "We cannot allow these people to draw their theology out of 
their experience.  Whenever the existential cart is put before the historical 
horse theology becomes a synthesis of human superstition and putting LSD into 
the communion is fair play."

Anything to induce an experience.  Christianity is in serious danger, 
victimized by the experiential spirit of the day, the legacy of mysticism.  
It must be tested by the Word of God.  We are going to do our best to do 
that.  At least you know from the start that experience is not the valid test 
for truth--the Word is.  And your experience flows out of the ministry of the 
Spirit through the Word to your life.  

Let's pray.  Father, we thank you for letting us cover these things tonight 
and there is so much that could have been said.  We thank you Lord that we 
can take a stand where your Word does in love.  We ask you to help us to do 
that faithfully as we go through these things, remembering that not all we 
say is true of all the folks in the Charismatic movement, but these are the 
general trends.  We thank you for those in that movement who are doing their 
best to adhere to the truth, to search your Scriptures, and we pray that you 
will lead them to a full understanding of your truth.  Help us to be loving 
even as we pass these things on and yet to confront error so we might be 
faithful to you.  In Christ's Name.  Amen.

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The following message was delivered at Grace Community Church in Panorama 
City, California, By John MacArthur Jr.  It was transcribed from the tape,
GC 90-53, titled "Charismatic Chaos" Part 2.  A copy of the tape can be 
obtained by writing, Word of Grace, P.O. Box 4000, Panorama City, CA 91412.

Scriptures quoted in this message are from the New American Standard Bible.



                         Charismatic Chaos - Part 2
                                     by
                               John MacArthur


I want to just preface the message tonight, really a study of an issue rather 
than a text, which is a little unfamiliar to us as normally we are in certain 
texts of Scripture.  But I want to preface it with just a couple of comments.  
First of all, I want to say that I am very much aware of the fact that not 
everyone who is associated with the Charismatic movement is engaged in the 
kind of extreme error that we will be from time to time referring to.  There 
are people who are more moderate.  There are people within the Charismatic 
movement who themselves are very, very concerned about the heresies and the 
aberrations that exists within that movement.  And so the movement runs quite 
a wide gamut and there are people at all different points.  

However, there are some salient features and elements in the movement that we 
are endeavoring to deal with and illustrate to you.  But again, I ask you to 
keep in mind that not everyone in the movement would affirm all these things.  
There are various and sundry different kinds of viewpoints.  To reinforce 
that, there are, according to current statistics, 382 million members of 
Pentecostal and Charismatic Churches worldwide, or 1 out of every 5 
Christians.  So when we talk about a widespread movement, indeed it is the 
case.  They gain about 19 million members per year and they donate about 34 
billion dollars to Christian causes.  It is a formidable group.  The movement 
now includes 11,000 Pentecostal and 3,000 Independent Charismatic 
denominations covering 7,000 languages, and two-thirds of all Charismatics 
live in the Third World.  It is a worldwide movement.  And thus it demands 
our attention.  

Now tonight as we come to the second in our series on Charismatic Chaos, the 
issue at hand is, "Does God still give revelation?"  That's our subject for 
tonight: Does God still give revelation?  

If someone were to write an anthem for the Charismatic movement it would have 
to be titled, "God told me!  God told me!"  you hear that over and over 
again.  Strange prophecies abound in the Charismatic movement; in fact, it is 
well nigh impossible to turn on a Charismatic television station or a radio 
station without being exposed, almost on a daily basis to some new "Words 
from the Lord."  I was watching one today and sure enough, "The Lord said, 
the Lord said, the Lord said," was repeated again and again.  

This week I listened to a very fascinating tape by a man by the name of James 
Ryle.  In his tape he tells about the fact that God gives him revelation 
through dreams, and that God revealed to him in this incredible dream, which 
I listened to him explain, 

    "Pictures of guitars, blue guitars, iridescent blue guitars."  And 
    then in the dream God showed him amplifiers, and then God told him 
    that, "The guitars and the amplifiers belong to the Beatles."  And 
    God told him that, "The Church will win the world to salvation 
    when it goes into the world and sings anointed music like the 
    Beatles."  The tape is filled with statements, "The Lord said, the 
    Lord said, the Lord said, the Lord said."  And here are some 
    quotes, "The Lord said, 'I called those four lads from Liverpool 
    to myself.  There was a call from God on their lives.  They were 
    gifted by my hand and it was I who anointed them (speaking of the 
    Beatles).  The purpose was to usher in the Charismatic Renewal 
    with musical revival around the world.'"  

    Then the Lord said, "The four lads from Liverpool went AWOL and 
    did not serve in my army.  They served their own purposes and gave 
    the gift to the other side."  And then the Lord said, "I lifted 
    the anointing and for twenty years I've held it in my hand and I 
    am about to release it again."  And then the Lord said, "It 
    doesn't belong to the world, it belongs to the Church."  And then 
    the Lord said, "I will release an anointing in music that will 
    take the world by storm like the Beatles when they first came.  
    New, anointed music that will capture men's hearts."  And then the 
    Lord said, "The same kind of reaction that the Beatles extracted 
    will come, only this time the girls will not scream, Ringo, John, 
    George, or Paul, they will scream, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus."

Did the Lord say that?  Did the Lord say any of that?  He says he did.  
Surely the most famous of all the Lord's speaking to Charismatics is the 
famous, "Oral Roberts Death Threat Prophecy" a preposterous and fabricated 
supposed "Word from the Lord."  Roberts told his nationwide audience in 1987
that God had threatened to call him home if he couldn't raise 8 million 
dollars by his creditor's deadline.  Whether or how that threat might have 
been carried out the world will never know because Roberts received a last 
minute reprieve in the form of a large check from a Florida dog track owner, 
as you remember.  Two years later when Roberts was forced to close his 
massive, multi-million dollar City of Faith Medical Center anyway, in spite 
of the 8 million dollars, he asked God, "Why?"  And Oral Roberts said God 
spoke to him and God said, 

    "I had you build the City of Faith large enough to capture the 
    imagination of the entire world, about the merging of My healing 
    streams of Prayer and Medicine.  I did not want this revelation 
    localized in Tulsa, however, and the time has come when I want 
    this concept of merging My healing streams to be known to all 
    people and to go into all future generations."  So said God.  
    Roberts said, "It is clearly in my spirit, as I have ever heard 
    Him, the Lord gave me an impression, 'You and your partners have 
    merged prayer and medicine for the entire world, for the Church 
    World and for all generations.'  And then He said, 'It is done.'  
    And then I asked, 'Is that why after eight years you are having us 
    close the hospital and after eleven years the medical school?'  
    And God said, 'Yes, the mission has been accomplished in the same 
    way that after three years of public ministry, my Son said on the 
    cross, Father, it is finished!'"

Putting yourself in company with Jesus Christ is a bold move.  That kind of 
arrogance almost makes us catch our breath.  I recently had the opportunity 
to stand on the dandelion patch that now surrounds the City of Faith Medical 
Center in Tulsa.  A sixty floor building next to a thirty floor building.  An 
absolutely unbelievable edifice rising out of the midst of nothing, in the 
outskirts of this city.  A monument to a man's folly and certainly no 
testimony to the character and the quality and the power of God, for it 
stands empty and unfinished, wasted.  

The arrogance that causes people to think that God talks to them and puts 
themselves on a plane with even Jesus Christ and His work is amazing.  But 
Oral Roberts is not the only Charismatic who thinks he's receiving private 
revelation from God.  Most Charismatics, at one time or another, feel that 
God speaks to them in some specific way.  Either through an audible voice, 
some kind of internal impression, a dream (and that's kind of a new one), a 
vision, or a prophesy.   33 

Linda Fell (sp.), founder of Rapha Ranch (sp.), sells a tape, a song she was 
given by the Holy Spirit as she was being healed of cancer.  An editor for a 
Christian publisher once told me that he receives submissions every week from 
Charismatics who claim God inspired them to write their book, article, song 
or poem.  My editor friend noted that these manuscripts are often poorly 
written, filled with bad grammar, marred by factual and logical errors, or 
full of poems that mutilate the language or attempt to rhyme but just miss.  
And these are supposed to be authored by the Holy Spirit?  Lest you think 
that cranks and obscure eccentrics or naive Charismatic believers are the 
only ones who would make such claims, you need to know that's not the case.  

Even Jack Heyford (sp.), who is very near to us, and would be known even 
among Charismatics is a man of honor and integrity and a man who believes the 
Scripture, recently told the Pentecostal Fellowship of North America that God 
had revealed to him that a new era is coming.  He related a vision, in which 
he had seen Jesus seated on His throne at the right hand of the Father.  And 
in his vision, Jesus began to lean forward and rise from His seat, and as the 
anointing caught in the folds of His garment and it began to splash out and 
fall over the Church, and then Jesus said, "I'm beginning to rise now in 
preparation for My Second Coming, those who will rise with me will share in 
this double portion of anointing."  This is a private revelation that Jesus' 
Second Coming is near.

Larry Lee, popular Charismatic preacher, wrote, "Recently, I was in Chicago 
preparing to preach and the Lord's Spirit came upon me."  He spoke, "I am 
going to tell you now the name of the strong man over this nation.  The 
spiritual strong man that you are facing, the demonic strong man that has 
your nation under his control.  It is the strong man of greed."  

Now, the question is, "Did God talk to this man about the Beatles?  Did God 
talk to Oral Roberts about the City of Faith?  Did God write a song for Linda 
Feld?  Did Jack Heyford actually see Christ rise from His seat and get ready 
for His Second Coming?  Was Larry Lee's prophecy really a word from the Lord?  
Are we to believe that that is revelation?"   One television evangelist claims 
that he had a seven hour conversation with Jesus Christ.  Seven hours.  And 
during that time they talked about the problems on earth and discussed 
decisions which he, the evangelist, was facing.  And Jesus was trying to help 
him work out some of these decisions.  Significantly, this man also has said 
he had some direct encounters with Satan, who has tried to choke the preacher 
in his bed.  Unfortunately, the man doesn't see the connection between the 
two events.  It seems to me that Jesus appearing to him was nothing different 
than the manifestation of a demonic spirit who took the name of Jesus Christ 
and was very likely the same spirit that wanted to choke him.  Certainly, 
there is no way to tell the difference in that kind of mystical experience.  

Spirits who claim to be Jesus Christ abound in my limited experience.  I have 
even heard them take His name myself, and say they are Jesus Christ when it 
is apparent that they are not.  Anyone who seeks direct communication with 
God or Christ is in serious danger of demonic impersonators of deity.  

And there is another, even more basic issue than that, and that is, "Are 
Christians still receiving, by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, direct 
revelation from God?  Are we still getting it?  Is God still talking?"  Most 
Charismatics would say a loud and resounding yes.  

One of their leaders, a theologian, by the name of Jay Rodman Williams, 
former president of one of their schools, wrote this, "The Bible truly has 
become a fellow witness to God's present activity."  That's an amazing 
statement.  When you say that the Bible is a fellow witness to God's present 
activity you mean that it is not alone, there is somebody else there 
witnessing as well.  He goes on, 

    If someone today perhaps has a vision of God, of Christ, it is 
    good to know that it has happened before.  If one has a revelation 
    from God, to know that for the early Christians, revelation also 
    occurred in the community.  If one speaks a "Thus says the Lord," 
    and dares to address the fellowship in the first person, even 
    going beyond the words of Scripture, that this was happening long 
    ago.  How strange and remarkable it is.  If one speaks in the 
    fellowship of the Spirit, the Word of Truth, it is neither his 
    thoughts and reflections nor simply some exposition of Scripture, 
    for the Spirit transcends personal observations, however 
    interesting or profound they may be.  The Spirit, as the Living 
    God, moves through and beyond the records of past witness however 
    valuable such records are as a model for what happens today.

Now what he is saying is that the Bible is simply a model of what is going on 
all the time.  It is one of many witnesses.  There have been witnesses in the 
past; there are witnesses in the present and they just stand along side the 
Bible.  The Bible is one of many.  He is alleging that the Bible is not the 
final source of God's revelation, but simply a witness, like a lot of other 
witnesses and there is plenty of additional revelation that God is giving 
today.  He is saying that Christians not only can, but should add to the 
Bible, and that such additions are normal and conventional.  The Bible is 
just a model for what the Holy Spirit continues to do today.  This obviously 
is a frightening view: relativistic, mystical, subjective.  It tells us that 
God continues to speak and there's all kinds of things that He has been 
saying and continues to say that we need to place along side the Scripture, 
and here we are and we don't have a record of that.  That's inherent in the 
Charismatic movement; the belief that there is continuing, ongoing 
revelation, and God is continuing to speak (which of course is a denial of 
the singular authority of Scripture).

Edward Gross in his book, "Miracles, Demons, and Spiritual Warfare," sees the 
deadliness of this trend in the Church.  He writes,

    The age of models has come.  A model takes the place of a law.  
    Models are human perceptions of truth, they are tentative and thus 
    subject to change as new data becomes available.  These models are 
    open and constantly tested.  No scientist dares claim any longer 
    that one model is the way to explain all known phenomena for fear 
    that some newly discovered data will prove that scientist to be a 
    precipitant old fool.  The world of science has progressed from 
    the old approach, Closed Systems to a new approach, Open Systems.  
    And there are all kinds of new models.  If the Bible is a Closed 
    System of truth, with no new revelation being given through 
    inspired Prophets or Apostles, then the model approach is an 
    erroneous and dangerous tool in hermeneutics.  There should be no 
    confusion in this area, the orthodox teaching of Christianity has 
    always affirmed that God's special saving revelation to mankind is 
    restricted to the teaching of Scriptures.  That is the issue.  If 
    the Bible is complete, then it represents a Closed System of 
    truth.  If it entails a fixed and absolute standard of truth, then 
    the teaching of Scripture must be ascertained and dogmatically 
    asserted.  If God is still granting new revelation, then the truth 
    of God is still being progressively revealed; and if this were the 
    case, our duty would to be to faithfully listen to today's 
    Prophets as they unraveled God's truth and new and clearer 
    representations than we find in Scripture.

Well, he says, "I don't believe that."  "I don't believe that the Bible is an 
opened system, but a closed one."  Scripture is a closed system of truth, 
completely sufficient and not to be added to.  Revelation 22:18-19, the last 
chapter in the Bible says, "If you add to it, God will add to you the plagues 
that are written in it."  And yet we have all these supposed revelations.  
What are they?  Imagination?  Fabrication?  Demonization?  But not divine 
revelation.  Now in understanding this issue we need to face some questions.  

Question number one, "What does inspiration mean?  When we say that the Bible 
is inspired, what do we mean?  What are we talking about?"  Our word inspired 
comes from a Latin root that means to "breath in, to inspire."  
Unfortunately, that doesn't convey the true meaning of the Greek term used in 
Scripture.  Actually the concept of "breathing in" is not found in 2 Timothy 
3:16, where it says, "All Scripture is inspired by God."  It's not the word 
for breathing in.  That translation has unfortunately mislead some folks, and 
they have assumed that men wrote a lot of words and God breathed into them 
some kind of power; some kind of divine life--that's not it.  When it says, 
"All Scripture is inspired," the word "inspire" is theopneustos (GR.).  It is 
actually a word that said "God-breathed."  It is God breathing it out, not 
God breathing into it.  Literally the verse says, "All Scripture is God-
breathed."  It is the breath of God, not the words of men into which God 
puffed some divine life.  It is God's breath.  It is God speaking.  

Inspiration does not mean that the Bible has somehow been blown on by God and 
given some supernatural quality.  It means that the words of the Bible are 
the words of God Himself, out of his own mouth.  Every word of Scripture 
breathed out by God.  That's why at the Burning Bush God said to Moses, "Go 
and I will be with thy mouth and teach thee what thou shalt say" (Exodus 
4:12).  And Jeremiah, the weeping prophet of Judah, received this charge from 
God, chapter 1, "Whatsoever I command thee, thou shalt speak.  Behold I have 
put my words in your mouth."  And God said to Ezekiel in chapter 3, "Son of 
man, go get thee unto the house of Israel.  All My words that I shall speak 
unto thee, receive in thine heart and hear with thine ears and go and speak 
them."

And so then, we have in the Bible the words out of the mouth of God.  2 Peter 
1:21, that very important text says, "No prophecy," that is, "No revelation 
was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke 
from God."  The word "moved" means "carried along."  They were carried along  
by the Holy Spirit.  Theologian Thomas Thomas, recalls that as a boy he would 
play in the little streams that ran down the mountainside near his home.  

    We boys like to play what we call "boats."  Our boat would be a 
    little stick, which was placed in the water, and then we would run
    along beside it and follow it as it was washed downstream.  When 
    the water would run rapidly over some rocks the little stick would 
    move rapidly as well.  In other words, that little stick which 
    served as my boyhood boat was carried along, borne along, under 
    the complete control and direction of the water.  It moved as the 
    water moved it.  So it is with reference to the writers of 
    Scripture.  They were carried along, borne along, under the 
    control and direction of the Holy Spirit of God.  They wrote as 
    the Spirit directed them to write.  They were borne along by Him 
    so that what they wrote was exactly that which the Holy Spirit 
    intended should be there, and what they wrote was in a very real 
    sense, not their words; it was the very Word of God.

That's what we mean by inspiration, that the Bible is the very Word of God.

Now, a second question faces us now that we know what inspiration means.  
"What is the contemporary approach to Scripture?  What's going on today that 
threatens this?"  Moving outside the Charismatic movement, just a very quick 
lesson, but you need to understand it.  Modern theologians want to allow for 
continued inspiration.  In liberal theology or neo-orthodox theology, which 
is liberal in the sense that it denies the inspiration of Scripture: they 
want to deny.  They start from the denial point.  Liberal theology, as I told 
you this morning, and neo-orthodox theology came out of "The Enlightenment," 
when man began to worship his own mind, believing that he was the ultimate 
judge of all truth, being enamored with his intellectual capability.  Man 
said, "I go to the Bible, I find all kinds of things that are not reasonable, 
rational, logical.  All the supernatural and miraculous things that I can't 
comprehend, I eliminate."  So he starts eliminating all of that.  So 
immediately he, of course, denies the inspiration of Scripture.  It isn't the 
Word of God, it's the word of men; it has to be changed because there is some 
foolishness in here.

So, modern theology then reduces the Bible to just the best efforts of men.  
Well, once it is reduced to the best efforts of men then you can have 
continuing revelation.  Right?  Because men can continue to make those kinds 
of efforts.  So modern theology wants to allow for continued inspiration.  
Continued, updated, Word from the Lord in some sort of mystical, personal 
way.  It is the best of men writing about their religious experiences, and 
perhaps even prompted somehow by God to write down their own thoughts and 
ideas.  At least one of these modern writers, Dewey Beagle by name, believes 
that some of the classic anthems of the Church are inspired in the same way 
as Scripture.  So this is how he would understand inspiration and he is very 
popular.  He has written, "Some of the great hymns are practically on a par 
with the Psalms.  And one can be sure that if Isaac Watts, Charles Wesley, 
Augustus Toplaley (sp.) and Reginald Heber (sp.) had lived in the time of 
David and Solomon and been no more inspired than they were in their own days, 
some of their hymns and praise to God would have found their way into the 
Hebrew Bible."  

In other words, the kind of inspiration they're talking about is just the 
kind of sort of emotional, intellectual, stimulation that makes you write 
down some good thoughts about God, but it is a human effort.  Beagle refers 
in particular, for example, to George Matheson (sp.), a blind Scottish pastor 
who wrote, "Oh love That Will Not Let Me Go," and he says, "It's that kind of 
inspiration that characterizes the Bible writers."  He says, 

    What distinguishes the Bible is its record of special revelation, 
    not a distinctive kind of inspiration.  It is just that the Bible 
    has a unique revelation; that's what makes it distinct, but the 
    inspiration that brought that revelation, revelation being the 
    content, inspiration being the process, the process of inspiration 
    which brought that content is being repeated over and over again 
    with new content.  So you have the Bible and then you have this, 
    and then you have this, and then you have this, and then you have 
    this, and it all comes through the same kind of inspiration.  The 
    same kind of inspiration that, for example, is characteristic of 
    one who writes good music.  

Beagle believes that the Canon of Scripture has never been closed.  He has 
written that, "The revelation and inspiration of God's Spirit continues, for 
this reason there is no basis in considering all of the Biblical writers and 
editors as qualitatively different from post canonical interpreters."  It's 
all the same.  You just keep having revelation, you just keep having 
revelation.  That's neo-orthodoxy.  That's liberalism.  And that is, in 
effect, precisely what the Charismatic movement believes.  That is why, 
beloved, you can have neo-orthodoxy and Charismaticism coexisting in an 
institution, because they basically believe in an open canon.  They basically 
believe in ongoing revelation.  They may define it a little differently, but 
they believe that there's still inspiration and revelation coming.  

That heretical view frightens any true Biblical scholar, any true believer in 
Scripture, because it destroys the distinctiveness of the Bible.  If God is 
still inspiring revelation, we have got real problems.  If the Canon of 
Scripture is still opened, and God is still giving prophecies, and psalms, 
and words of wisdom, and words of knowledge, then we ought to be seeking to 
compile all that stuff, and we ought to be most interested in studying the 
more recent revelations because they're the ones that speak most directly to 
our times.  By the way, some of the Charismatics can see the problem here.  
Their most popular magazine is a magazine called "Charisma."  An article in 
Charisma recently said this, 

    To meditate on our personal prophecies, we should record them if 
    at all possible.  If someone approaches us saying, he or she has a 
    word from God, we should ask the person to wait a moment until we 
    can get an audio recorder or else ask the person to write it down.  
    If the word comes from someone on the platform during a meeting 
    that is not being recorded, we must try to write down as much as 
    is possible, getting at least the main points.

"This is Scripture, we have to write it down!"  My friend that's heresy.  
That is outright heresy that the Bible is still being written.  The Canon of 
Scripture is not opened.  God's Word, Old Testament and New Testament, is one 
unique miracle.  It came together over a period of 1500 years.  More than 40 
men of God, Prophets and Apostles wrote God's word.  Every jot and every 
tittle without error in perfect harmony, and when it was done it was done.  
No hymn is worthy to be compared to Scripture.  No modern mystical experience 
can be spoken of in the same breath as Scripture.  

And that leads to a third query, "Is revelation progressive?"  These people 
who say that it is progressive, are they right?  Going back to J. Rodman 
Williams, a Charismatic theologian, he argues for ongoing revelation, 

    In the Spirit, the present fellowship is as much the arena of 
    God's vital presence as anything in the Biblical account.  Indeed, 
    in light of what we may learn from this past witness and take to 
    heart, we may expect new things to occur in our day and in days to 
    come.  In prophecy God speaks; it is as simple, and profound, and 
    startling as that.  What happens in the fellowship is that the 
    Word may suddenly be spoken by anyone present and so variously a 
    "Thus says the Lord," breaks forth in the fellowship.  It is 
    usually in the first person, such as, "I am with you to bless 
    you," or has the directness of an, "I, Thou" encounter.  It comes 
    not in a heavenly language but in the native tongue of the person 
    speaking and with his accustomed inflections, cadences and 
    manners.  Indeed, the speech may be coarse and ungrammatical, it 
    may be a mixture of King James and modern, it may falter as well 
    as flow.  Such really doesn't matter for, in prophecy, God uses 
    what He finds and through frail human instruments the Spirit 
    speaks the Word of the Lord.  

Now that is as clear as you can ever hear it, that God is still giving 
revelation.  Bad grammar, but revelation.

    [He continues]
    All of this, to repeat, is quite surprising and startling.  Most 
    of us, of course, were familiar with prophetic utterances recorded 
    in the Bible, and willing to accept it as the Word of God.  
    Isaiah's or Jeremiah's "Thus says the Lord" we were accustomed to, 
    but to hear a Tom or a Mary today in the 20th Century speak the 
    same way!  Many of us, also had convinced ourselves that prophecy 
    ended with the New Testament until suddenly, through the dramatic 
    thrust of the Holy Spirit, prophecy comes alive again.  Now we 
    wonder how we could have misread the New Testament for so long.

"Now we wonder how we could have misread the New Testament for so long."  In 
other words he is saying, "The New Testament should have told us that 
prophecy would continue."  In a later issue of "Logos" magazine, when he was 
taken to task for such foolish and heretical views, he tried to clarify his 
view, and this is what he said,

    I do not intend, in any way, to place contemporary experience on the same 
    level of authority as the Bible.  Rather, do I vigorously affirm the 
    decisive authority of Scripture.  Hence, God does not speak just as 
    authoritatively today as He spoke to the Biblical authors, but He does 
    continue to speak.  Thus He moves through and beyond the records of past 
    witness, [that's the Bible], for He is the living God who still speaks 
    and acts among His people.

Double talk!  Nonsense!  Pointless!  What do you mean?  He says, "I don't 
want to put this on the level of Scripture authority.  God isn't speaking as 
authoritatively today as He spoke in the Biblical time, but He is still 
speaking."  Well, what's the difference?  This doesn't matter?  This isn't 
authoritative?  This is erroneous?  That is double talk.  Are some of God's 
words less authoritative than others, or less true, or less accurate, or less 
important?  The view of the Charismatics is not distinguishable as I said 
from the neo-orthodox, who have an incessant kind of free flowing revelation.  
The Charismatics says it comes from a prophecy, a word of wisdom, a word of 
knowledge, and the neo-orthodox says it's whatever you feel, it's whatever 
happens inside of you becomes the Word of God to you.  But both of them 
destroy the central doctrine of "Sola Scriptura." 

Once a congregation or a person sees Scripture as less than the final, 
complete, infallible authority for faith and life, it has thrown open the 
door to absolute chaos.  Absolute chaos.  Can you imagine being in a church, 
where when people stand up and say they, "Have a word from the Lord," and 
you're supposed to believe it every time?  Anybody could claim anything, and 
they do.  They do, and pass it off as divine truth.  And corrupt Charismatic 
leaders, the ones that are corrupt, and the ones that are self-aggrandizing 
and do it for their own gain, do it all the time.  

Perhaps the most brazen example of that is a widely publicized prophecy 
delivered by Kenneth Copeland.  He claims that Jesus gave him a message 
during a three-day victory campaign held in Dallas, Texas.  Judge for 
yourselves whether this could be a message from the Christ of Scripture.  I 
am quoting Kenneth Copeland; this is what he said,

    It's time for these things to happen, saith the Lord [this is his 
    prophecy].  It's time for spiritual activity to increase.  Oh yes, 
    demonic activity will increase along at the same time, but don't 
    let that disturb you.  Don't be disturbed when people accuse you 
    of thinking you're God.  Don't be disturbed when people accuse you 
    of a fanatical way of life.  Don't be disturbed when people put 
    you down and speak harshly and roughly of you; they spoke that way 
    of me, should they not speak that way of you?  (And again he's 
    quoting Jesus)  The more you get to be like me, the more they are 
    going to think that way of you.  They crucified me for claiming 
    that I was God, but I didn't claim I was God.  I just claimed I 
    walked with Him and that He was in me.  Alleluia, that's what your 
    doing.

You mean to tell me that Jesus gave him a revelation that said He didn't 
claim to be God?  Copeland's prophecy is clearly false.  The real Jesus, the 
Jesus of the New Testament did claim He was God.  Using the covenant name of 
God He told the Jewish leaders, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham 
was, I Am."  Is Copeland genuinely a prophet, or is he one whom Peter spoke 
of when he wrote, "False prophets also arose among the people just as there 
will be false prophets among you."  

Now, not all of these bizarre prophecies and visions are as clearly in 
conflict with Scripture.  Some are merely frivolous, silly.  Like the guy 
with the blue guitars and the Beatles.  Larry Lee wrote this,

    Several years ago one of my dear friends said, "Larry, when I was 
    praying for you the other day I had a vision.  I saw you with 
    great big Mickey Mouse ears.  Everything else about you looked 
    normal except for those elephant sized ears.  When I asked the 
    Lord to tell me what the vision meant, the Spirit of the Lord 
    spoke back to me and said, 'Larry Lee has developed his hearing; 
    he has developed his spiritual ears.'"
 3(3 
Charismatics have abandoned the uniqueness of Scripture as the only Word of 
God and the result is a mystical trivial, silly, and foolish heretical free- 
for-all.  Longing for something new; longing for something sensational.  A 
longing for some emotional experience has replaced settled confidence and 
diligent study of God's Word, and this invites Satan's deceptive 
counterfeits.  Melvin Hodges is a Charismatic pastor who has admitted his 
strong reservations about these new revelations.  He's an honest fellow.  
Melvin Hodges is very worried about all of these even though he's a 
Charismatic.  Let me quote what he says, just to show you that some of them 
are concerned.  

    Today some people tend to magnify the gifts of Prophecy and 
    Revelation out of their proper proportion.  Instances have 
    occurred in which a church has allowed itself to be governed by 
    gifts of inspiration.  Deacons have been appointed and pastors 
    removed or installed by prophecy.  Chaos has resulted.  The cause 
    is obvious; prophecy was never intended to usurp the place of 
    ministries of government or of a gift or a word of wisdom.  Paul 
    teaches us that the Body is not made up of one member but of many, 
    and if prophecy usurps the role of wisdom or the word of 
    knowledge, the whole Body is dominated by one ministry, that is 
    prophecy.  In other words, the whole Body becomes ruled by the 
    prophetic member.  The idea that the voice of prophecy is 
    infallible has confused many people.  Some have felt it is a sin 
    to question what they consider to be the voice of the Spirit.  
    However, in the ministry of all gifts there is cooperation between 
    the divine and the human.   

What's he saying?  Absolutely nothing!  But he understands there's a problem, 
but he hasn't got clue one how to deal with it.  He didn't say anything.  He 
didn't say a word about anything.  He didn't give you any criteria to judge 
anything.  All he's saying is that we got to cooperate, we can't have too 
many prophecies, but he has nothing to say about how do you know it's true or 
not true.  He wants a way to resolve the confusion, but there isn't any!  

Now, not all Charismatics would agree that the problem of abuse is one of 
overemphasis.  Some think people just aren't well trained enough.  One group 
has started a School of the Prophets.  I'm quoting from their literature, 

    Perhaps you feel that you have been called to be an oracle of the 
    Lord; and have had difficulty explaining your experiences or 
    finding someone that you could relate to and learn from.  The 
    School of the Prophets is designed to help bring grounding and 
    clarity to the myriad of dreams and visions that are the hallmark 
    of a prophet and seer ministry, and to assist in the restoration 
    of the prophetic ministry within the Body of Christ.  There are 
    many that have become disillusioned and disenchanted with the 
    prophetic ministry because of abuses and ignorant usage of the 
    gifting.  "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water."  For if 
    you have had the bitter experience of the counterfeit, know that 
    there is a reality to discover.  Abuses and misrepresentations 
    occur simply because of the abomination of ignorance.  Come and be 
    trained at the School of the Prophets, so that you will be 
    properly prepared to fulfill the destiny that God has chosen for 
    you. 3_3 

So their suggestion is, you just got to have good training.  Take some good 
courses and you will be an accurate prophet.  Is the distinction, by the way, 
between true and false a matter of technique?  Is a true prophet a true 
prophet because he has gone to school to learn how to do it?  Was there a 
school to train the Biblical writers?  Listen, false prophecy is no Picadillo 
(that means a trivial thing, trifling fault).  This is a major issue.  In 
fact, if you were a prophet in the Old Testament and you missed one, you got 
killed.  They executed you.  In spite of this, some Charismatics believe 
anybody with any claim to have a Word from the Lord should be believed, 
should be heard, and don't even need a "Call" from God.  "Charisma" magazine 
carried an ad teaching people how to listen to God's voice and talk with Him 
24 hours a day.  It said they could really be good at it!  They were teaching 
how to get it and how to pass it on.  

It's a lark!  No accountability.  And of course it points Christians away 
from the Scripture which is trustworthy and teaches them to seek truth 
through the Word.  Nothing in the Charismatic movement is as destructive as a 
failure to adhere to Scripture alone.  It opens the movement to everything; 
worse of all--demonic lies, seduction from spirits, pumping demon doctrine 
through hypocritical liars (1 Tim 4).  Once you have gone beyond the Word, 
you are in chaos and confusion.  

I want to conclude with just a brief statement about the close of the Canon 
of Scripture, because I think it's important.  Jude 3; you might want to look 
at it.  We'll bounce off of this for just a moment.  Jude, chapter 3.  It's a 
crucial passage on the completeness of the Bible.  Jude 3, verse 3, "Beloved 
when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was 
needful for me to write unto you and exhort you that we should earnestly 
contend," now listen to this, "for the faith which was once for all delivered 
unto the saints."  Literally, the Greek text says, "The once for all 
delivered to the saints, faith."  In the Greek text the definite article 
"the" preceding "faith" points to the one and only faith, there is no other.  
The one and only true faith.  Such passages as Galatians 1:23 refer to 
preaching the faith.  First Timothy 4:1, "Some will fall away from 'the' 
faith."  And so it is an objective use of the expression "the faith."  

Greek scholar, Henry Alford is right when he says, "faith here is objective, 
it means the sum of that which Christians believe.  It is not subjective 
faith; that is, believing in a verbal sense.  It is a sum of what we believe, 
the Christian faith."  "The Faith," he says, "is once for all delivered."  
"Once for all" is hapax (Greek), it refers to something done once and no 
more.  Done once and no more.  It has lasting results; it never needs 
repetition.  The faith was once for all delivered.  Delivered.  The Christian 
faith then is complete.  It is unchangeable, which is to say, that it does 
not need to be fixed; it does not need to be edited; it does not need 
additions or deletions.  Every doctrine and every revelation that has arisen 
since is a false doctrine or a false revelation.  All claims to additional 
revelation are false claims and must be rejected.  

The word "delivered" is important as well.  In the Greek it is an Aorist 
Passive Participle which in this context indicates an act completed in the 
past with no continuing element.  An act completed in the past with no 
continuing element.  Once in the past, once for all, never to be repeated, 
the faith was delivered.  And so through the Scriptures, God has given us a 
body of truth that is final and complete.  Our Christian faith rests on 
historical and objective revelation.  That rules out all prophecies, all 
seers, all forms of new revelation until God speaks again in the end times.  

Now you can see the pattern of this even in looking at Scripture.  The Old 
Testament was written.  The final books, Ezra and Nehemiah, they're not the 
final ones in your Bible chronologically, but they were the final ones 
written.  There was a rearrangement of the order of the books.  But after the 
time of Ezra and Nehemiah, when the Old Testament was completed, there was no 
more revelation.  Four hundred years of silence.  No prophet spoke God's 
revelation.  For four hundred years, no prophet spoke.  Why?  God was making 
a point, the revelation is complete, it is done.  And no prophet existed for 
four hundred years.  And God was punctuating the completion of the Old 
Testament Canon with silence and sending a message to us that said, 
"Revelation doesn't go on all the time, it has an ending point."  

The silence was finally broken and a prophet came.  He was related to the 
Messiah and his name was John the Baptist, and God began to speak the New 
Testament revelation.  And when the New Testament revelation was 
done--revelation was done.  The last book was Revelation, penned by John in 
96 AD, and it was over.  By the Second Century, the complete Canon (the word 
canon means standard, rule, faith and practice), the complete New Testament 
exactly as we have it today was popularly recognized.  Church councils in the 
fourth century made it official, the Canon was complete.  And from then on 
God has been silent as to revelation.  Just as the close of the Old Testament 
was followed by silence, the close of the New Testament has been followed by 
the utter absence of new revelation in any form.  Since the Book of 
Revelation was written there has been no new written or verbal revelation 
from God.  Scripture is the test of everything, it is the Christian's only 
standard.  

Spurious books have been offered.  The Roman Catholic Church includes the 
Apocrypha.  The Roman Catholic Church accepts it as Scripture but it is not.  
If you study it you will find, as I did when I studied it in seminary, there 
are errors of history, errors of geography, and gross errors in theology.  
Jerome, who lived from 345AD to 419AD was a spokesman for excluding the 
Apocrypha books.  Some of the early Church fathers, most notably, Augustine, 
did accept them, though not necessarily on a par with the Hebrew Old 
Testament.  Finally, in the 16th Century the Reformers affirmed "Sola 
Scriptura," the truth the Bible alone is authoritative, denied the Apocrypha 
any place among the inspired writings.  It never had had any and it shouldn't 
of have.  The Roman Church reacted against the Reformers in the Council of 
Trent from 1545 to 1563, stating that all of the Apocrypha was canonical.  
And Protestants and Catholics have maintained the disparity to this day.  If 
you have a Catholic Bible you'll find the Apocrypha is in the middle.  Those 
are spurious, uninspired books.

How did Christians know the inspired books from the ones that weren't 
inspired?  There were three tests.  One was Apostolic Authorship.  It was 
written by an Apostle or a close associated of an Apostle.  For example, Mark 
was not an Apostle but the companion of Peter who was.  Luke was not an 
Apostle but worked closely with Paul who was.  A second test by the early 
Church was content.  Was the content consistent with Apostolic Doctrine?  Was 
it absolutely accurate doctrinally?  This was very important because the 
heretics were writing the false books, but in all of the false books there 
was false teaching because why would a heretic write a book about truth?  
He'd want to get a heresy in.  Heretics tried to worm their way into the 
Church.  Their doctrinal errors were easily spotted because they contradicted 
the Apostle's teachings.  A third test was the response of the Churches: if 
God's people accepted it, used it for worship, made it a part of their lives.  
If Christians were universally being taught and blessed by the Book that was 
another stamp of approval.  

By 404 AD, the Latin Vulgate version of the Bible was complete.  It was the 
earliest known translation of all 66 books of the Bible, and they were the 
very same 66 in 404 AD that we have in our Bible today.  God spoke once for 
all, delivered it and preserved it through the ages and you have it exactly 
the way he delivered it.  True churches always believed the Bible is 
complete.  The Charismatic movement doesn't believe that.  Now, they want to 
deny that they are adding to Scripture, but their views on prophetic 
utterance, prophetic gifts, knowledge, wisdom, visions, dreams, revelations, 
add to Scripture.  Unwittingly, they undermine the uniqueness and the 
authority of the Word of God.   You see, Christians can't play fast and loose 
with inspiration and revelation, or they will never be able to distinguish 
the voice of God, from the voice of man, from the voice of Satan.  

The Holy Spirit is working mightily, I believe, in the Church today, but not 
in the way that most Charismatics think.  The Holy Spirit's role is to 
empower the Church to preach the Word; to empower the Church to teach the 
Word; to empower the Church to write about the Word, that it might be 
understood.  The Holy Spirit is empowering the Church to worship according to 
truth, to witness to the truth and proclaim it, to grow by the study of the 
Word, and to serve as the Word calls and commands.  He does lead us into 
God's truth and He directs us into God's will for our lives through the Word, 
not through new revelation.  "God told me," is a dangerous and heretical 
model for anyone to take, because it opens to chaos, confusion, mysticism, 
subjectivism, demons and deception.  

"All Scripture, given by inspiration of God is profitable."  It is completely 
profitable.  It is so profitable that the man of God is made perfect by it 
thoroughly furnished unto all good works.  Right?  And the Scripture is 
sufficient; we need nothing more than this.  And once you introduce any more 
than this the chaos is irretrievable.  That's the tragedy of the Charismatic 
movement and that is why it is in chaos.  That is why there are some people 
in the movement who are tearing their hair out because they can't control 
what's going on.  But once you allow for additional revelation its gone, 
there's no control.  This Word is all that God wanted us to have "Once for 
all delivered."  
  
Let's bow in prayer.  Father, we thank you for the affirmation again tonight 
as we think through these things.  That your Word is sufficient.  That we 
have a faith once for all delivered to the saints.  It had a beginning and an 
end.  You spoke and then you were silent, and now you work to implement and 
apply and proclaim this already revealed truth.  We pray for people caught in 
the confusion of new revelations, the chaos.  Who thus are turned away from 
the single authority of Scripture and the responsibility to diligently study 
it and find themselves running after and pursuing mystical experiences that 
mean nothing.  That is nothing holy and righteous but things confusing and 
even demonic.  Deliver folks from that Father.  Take them into the green 
pastures of your Word where their souls are fed with all the nourishment they 
could ever need.  We thank you for this treasure.  Nothing is to be compared 
with it.  We acknowledge the great gift that it is, and desire to live by it.  
In Christ's name.  Amen.

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The following message was delivered at Grace Community Church in Panorama 
City, California, By John MacArthur Jr.  It was transcribed from the tape,
GC 90-54, titled "Charismatic Chaos" Part 3.  A copy of the tape can be 
obtained by writing, Word of Grace, P.O. Box 4000, Panorama City, CA 91412.

Scriptures quoted in this message are from the New American Standard Bible.



                         Charismatic Chaos - Part 3
                                     by
                               John MacArthur


In our study of this most fascinating and important subject of the 
Charismatic movement in our contemporary time, we come tonight to message 
number three in our series; and we are going to be building on the prior 
message dealing with "Does God still give Revelation?" as we talk about "Are 
there still Prophecies from God?", another very important component of 
understanding and assessing the Charismatic movement.

Certainly, in my mind, the most disturbing aspect of the Charismatic movement 
and their thirst for supernatural experience and supernatural encounter is  
their claim that God is still revealing Himself verbally to them.  As we saw 
in our last study, they claim that God is speaking to them: that is a 
constant claim.  In fact, there probably is nothing more commonly expressed 
among Charismatics than that, "The Lord told me!"  Or, "Jesus told me!"  
They believe that the Lord is still telling them specific things in specific 
terms.  God is still breathing out revelation.  

It has been a curiosity to me and should be to us, I think, that if God is 
still giving revelation, the only ones that He gives it to are Charismatics!  
Nobody else seems to be getting revelation with the exception of the founders 
of various cults.  But apart from the cults and the Charismatics I don't see 
people within the framework, the broad framework of Christianity, claiming 
revelation.  

Now, I want to be very clear that when I talk about the fact that God is no 
longer giving revelation, I don't want to be misunderstood.  I do believe 
that the Holy Spirit does lead Christians.  Romans 8:14 says that, "As many 
as are led by the Spirit, they are the children of God."  I believe the Holy 
Spirit guides us.  I believe He empowers us to witness, to speak, to write, 
to act with Spiritual Power and impact.  I believe the Holy Spirit impresses 
His will on our minds leading us to praise, leading us to obedience, leading 
us to righteousness, leading us to spiritual service.  We as believers can be 
confident of his moving on our minds to lead us to truth.  However, He does 
not speak to us in audible words.  He does not place inaudible, but specific 
words in our minds.  He is not breathing out any more revelation.  
 3;3 
We noted the importance of understanding that in our last study, and if you 
weren't here you'll want to get the tape.  You remember that Jude said that, 
"Scripture was once for all delivered to the Saints."  And when it was 
"delivered" it was done.  He was not only speaking of past Scripture when he 
wrote that, he was speaking of present Scripture which he himself was even 
writing, and he was speaking of future Scripture yet to be written by Apos
tles and their associates to complete the New Testament.  He identifies the 
composite of God's revelation and says, "It was once for all delivered to the 
Saints," in God's plan.  

And after all the Scripture was complete and "once for all delivered to the 
Saints" the Early Church said, "The Canon is closed."  Now that word "canon" 
needs definition.  We mentioned last time that it comes from a word "kanon" 
(Greek) which is a reed.  That reed was used as a measuring stick, and so the 
word "kanon" in the Greek came to mean a rod, or a bar, or a measuring rule, 
or standard, or limit.  We would call it a measuring rod, or a measuring 
stick, a ruler, a yardstick; something by which other things are measured.  
In the more spiritual sense it became a standard by which you measure truth.  
The Scripture metaphorically then became the standard of all truth; the 
standard of all spiritual ideas, concepts, and theology.  And so the Canon of 
Scripture, that is Scripture completed, and the rule was "once for all 
delivered to the Saints."

Just to give you a little deeper insight into that, the Old Testament Canon 
was closed about 425 B.C., 425 years before Christ.  The last prophecy was 
written by Malachi, [and] placed into the Canon.  There was no question which 
books were inspired by God.  No question.  It was clear to the people of God 
what they were.  In fact, under the leadership of the scribe Ezra, there was 
some work to pull all of that together, and the consensus of the people of 
God was very clear on what the 39 inspired books were.  How did they know?  

Two simple ways.  One, the writer, well known to be a spokesman for God, 
claimed to be speaking and writing the inspired Word of God.  First 
principle, the writer, well known as a spokesman for God claimed to be 
speaking and writing the inspired Word of God.  Second principle, there were 
no errors of history, geography, or theology at all in the book.  And if the 
writer was familiar to them, claimed the inspiration of God, and wrote 
without error, they knew they had inspired revelation.  

Now there were many attempts made by Satan to infiltrate the Old Testament 
Canon with uninspired books.  At least 14 of them have been accumulated and 
together they are called the Apocrypha.  You find them in a Roman Catholic 
Bible.  They are not a part of our Bible.  They are not inspired books.  They 
are books: 1 and 2 Esdras, Tobit, Judith, the rest of Esther, the Wisdom of 
Solomon, Ecclesiasticus (not to be confused with Ecclesiastes), Baruch, the 
Song of the Three Holy Children, the History of Susanna, Bel and the Dragon, 
the Prayer of Manasses, and 1 and 2 Maccabees.  All spurious.  We call them 
Pseudepigrapha--false writing.  They were clearly fakes.  How do we know they 
were fakes?  They were written long after the canon was completed and they 
lacked the prophetic quality and authorship to stamp them as inspired 
Scripture.  None of their writers claimed divine inspiration and some openly 
disclaimed it.  And Apocrypha books contained errors of facts, errors of 
ethics, errors of doctrine.  For example, some of the Apocrypha books 
advocate suicide.  Some of them advocate assassination and some of them teach 
praying for dead people.  Therein lies one of the reasons you find them in a 
Catholic Bible.  The Old Testament Canon was unquestioned; it is still 
unquestioned because it is so evident what was inspired.  

The New Testament writers then came together to write the remaining 27 books 
of Scripture.  And they had similar tests to determine a book's canonicity.  
One, was the book authored by an Apostle or someone closely associated with 
an Apostle?  They knew who the Apostles were and they knew who their close 
associates were.  The key question about the book's inspiration was tied to 
Apostolic authorship or one closely associated.  For example, the Gospel of 
Mark was written by Mark, and Mark was not an Apostle but a close associate 
of Peter, who was.  The Gospel of Luke and the Book of Acts were written by 
Luke who was not an Apostle but a very close associate of Paul, who was.  The 
Apostles were known to the people, their associates were known to the people, 
and when Apostles wrote and claimed inspiration the people were secure in the 
veracity of their writings.  

Another test applied by the Early Church was the test of content.  Did the 
writings square with what the Apostles taught?  In those early years of the 
Church, heretics such as the Gnostics tried to slip in phony books, but none 
of them ever made it.  If it didn't square with Apostolic doctrine--it didn't 
pass.  And the doctrinal aberrations were very easy to spot.  

A third test was this, "Is the book regularly read and used in the churches?"  
In other words, did the people of God readily accept it?  Read it during 
worship and make its teachings a part of their daily living?  

A final test was determined that would sort of pull it all together, and that 
was the book recognized and used by succeeding generations after the Early 
Church?  

All of those tests applied leave us with the 27 books that we have in our New 
Testament.  They all were written by authors who were either Apostles or 
closely associated with Apostles.  Their content is in complete and total 
agreement and harmony with all the teaching of the Apostles, and with all 
other books of the New Testament and Old Testament.  All 27 of them were read 
in the churches and used by the Church and by succeeding generations even 
until now.  There was also a formidable group of fakes that came in the New 
Testament period, books like the, "Epistle of Barnabas, the Apocalypse of 
Peter, the Gospel of Nicodemus, the Shepherd of Hermas."  And then there were 
false books called, "the Gospel of Andrew, the Gospel of Bartholomew, the 
Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Philip."  They all failed to make it in 
because they couldn't pass the test of authenticity.  

The false books then of the Old Testament and New Testament, what we call, as 
I said, Pseudepigrapha, were attempts to pollute the Biblical text with 
spurious revelation.  Now, listen to me.  That attempt didn't end in those 
days; it is still going on and before we are done tonight we are going to see 
that in clear terms.  People and groups have continued to claim their works 
and their writings are inspired by God, and are true, and authoritative and 
binding.  And whenever they do that, it leads to aberrant doctrine.  
Revelation 22:18 warns about this, it says, "I warn everyone who hears the 
words of the prophecy of this book; if anyone adds anything to them, God will 
add to him the plagues described in this book."  

Now, someone will scoff and say, "Well, that's only a warning that applies to 
the Book of Revelation and not the entire Bible."  Before you congratulate 
yourself, by the way, too loudly on such reasoning, realize this, Revelation 
is the last book ever written, all the way as late as 96 A.D.  It is the last 
book penned; it is therefore the last book in the Bible.  Therefore, if you 
add anything to the Book of Revelation, you are adding it to the Bible and 
you put yourself in danger of the curse of Revelation 22:18. 

Now, someone will immediately say, "Now, wait a minute.  If that's true then 
why don't these people who add to the Bible go up in smoke?  Go up in flames 
or have some personal holocaust that takes their life."  Well, one thing is 
clear, God does keep His word.  He doesn't keep it by your timetable or mine 
but by His own; and He may be withholding the force of that curse until 
"Judgment Day."  Christ has put His stamp of authority on the Scripture.  The 
Church has clearly discovered the Canon of God's Word under the guidance of 
the Holy Spirit, and has abandoned every spurious attempt to pollute it with 
false writing.  To add anything to Scripture or to downplay the singular, 
unique, inspiration of Scripture, then is to not only go against the Word of 
God and the warning of Scripture and the teaching of Christ and the Apostles, 
but it is to bring yourself into the very dangerous place where you are 
susceptible to the curse of God.  And, of course, what happens when you 
introduce something as true is [that] you open up a spiritual free-for-all,  
unintentionally perhaps. 

The Charismatic movement today has initiated that free-for-all as serious as 
any error in that movement is the error of claiming revelation from God.  It 
is reckless; it is indiscriminate.  Now, within that revelation claim, there 
is a specific category that I want to deal with tonight and that's the matter 
of prophecies.  

Yesterday, I was watching television, and I have been watching Channel 40 
frequently lately, in order to glean some illustrations of this.  And a 
preacher from Texas, by the name of Larry Lee came on and told about a 
prophecy that he had had, that he [then] gave to a certain individual.  
Verbatim, God gave it to him; verbatim he gave it to this certain individual.  
This is common.  This was not any big prophecy with far reaching implications 
or application; this was a personal prophecy for one guy, and he repeated 
that prophecy from God that was given to that man as expressing the very will 
of God, in the very words of God.  This is routine for them.

There has arisen recently a very interesting group that is sort of leading 
the prophetic parade, if we can call it that, and they come from Kansas City.  
They have gathered the name, "The Kansas City Prophets."  They are the 
subject of much writing today.  They are self-proclaimed prophets in Kansas 
City and they serve as a good example of how far prophetic abuses can go.  
They are very popular.  I was shocked, absolutely shocked, to find out within 
the last week, that one of their leaders is speaking in Westminster Church, 
the Church of G. Campbell Morgan and Martyn Lloyd-Jones, in the city of 
London.  That is the level to which they have ascended, these Kansas City 
Prophets.  

Invited to speak as guests in a Kansas City church, these self-styled 
prophets each prophesied that, "The Lord had told them that the Church was to 
disband.  That the Church's leaders had no right to challenge the prophecy 
and that if the Church failed to heed the prophecy, 'Ichabod, the Glory Has 
Departed,' would be written above the door."  Now, imagine a man coming into 
the pulpit of this Church, telling you he had a "Word from the Lord" that 
you're to disband, and if you don't disband according to the "Word from the 
Lord," Ichabod would be written over your Church.  

The Prophets had allegedly received a message from God saying that all the  
Christians in Kansas City were to be under the authority of the Prophets' 
home church.  So that all the Christians of Kansas City were to leave their 
churches and go to the Church known as the Kansas City Fellowship.  Similar 
prophecies were delivered in and around Kansas City and other churches and 
incredibly, one church at least, actually responded by dropping its ties with 
the Assemblies of God and aligning with the Kansas City Fellowship.  Now 
that's a novel approach to "Church Growth!"  But it has more in common with 
the methodology of cults than it does with the work of the Holy Spirit.

Interestingly, the Kansas City Prophets admit that they have prophesied 
falsely on occasion--they admit it.  They specialize, they say, in predictive 
prophecy.  They foretold, for example, that a nationwide revival would sweep 
across England in June of 1990, one year ago.  Hundreds of thousands were 
going to turn to Christ and the movement would then spread to the entire 
European Continent.  Like many of their predictions, the revival never 
materialized.  One of their prophets concocted a novel explanation of why so 
many of their prophecies go unfulfilled, and I am quoting, here's what he 
said:

      I figure, if I hit two-thirds of it, I'm doing pretty good.  God 
      told me that, "If I release the 100% Rema (sp.) right now, the 
      accountability would be awesome, and you'd have so much 'Ananias 
      and Sapphira' going on that the people wouldn't grow, they'd be 
      too scared."  But He said, "If it was 'on target' it would kill 
      instead of scaring the people to repentance."

Now, I don't even know what that means.  But apparently what he meant was, 
God told him I have to be wrong once and a while or people would be too 
frightened of what I say.  Kansas City Fellowship Pastor, Mike Bickel (sp.) 
adds, "Now, the 'two-thirds,' you know when Bob first said it, I said, 'two-
thirds?'"  He said, "Well, that's better than its ever been up to now, you 
know.  That's the highest level it's ever been."  In other words, these so-
called prophets claim they have a "Word from the Lord" but the odds are one 
in three at best that it will be false!  No wonder their prophecies have 
thrown so many churches into hopeless confusion.  And what a blasphemy 
against the God who is supposed to be the author of these.  

Oddly enough, despite their poor track record, the Kansas City Prophets have 
garnered an international following.  They have aligned with John Wimbers' 
(sp.) Vineyard Christian Fellowship, and they now speak worldwide about the 
modern day prophetic ministry.  In a forward to a book endorsing the Kansas 
City Prophets, written by Dr. John White, he writes: 

      Battles about prophets have plagued the Church from time to 
      time.  Early last century it was the Irvingite Controversy in 
      London with the leading prophet having to confess after years 
      that he had been deceived.  Many of us have found that hearing 
      from God is no easy thing.  In fact, the Church has had so many 
      bad experiences with prophets that we now react too rapidly and 
      fearfully.  We could be in danger of discarding a live baby in 
      our horror over dirty bath water. 

My question is, "Who says there's a baby in the dirty bath water?"  White, 
for example, fiercely defends the Kansas City Prophets, although he 
acknowledges that they have, "made mistakes."  He seems to believe that 
criticism of them is inherently Satanic.  Quoting White he says:

      Satan fears those words that come fresh from God's lips.  
      Because Satan so dreads the fresh word, he will arouse 
      controversy wherever it comes forth miraculously through the 
      lips of a real prophet, or from the lips of an Evangelist, 
      aflame with the Spirit.

Now, do you see what a trap that is?  Because if you hear a prophecy and you 
reject it--Ah! Ha!  That's satanic!  So you're trapped.  Curiously, White 
believes that controversy about the Kansas City Prophets is strong evidence 
of their genuineness.  In a section titled (mistitled really), "Beware of 
False Prophets," White quotes Jesus' warning about false prophets in Matthew 
7:15, Matthew 24:11, and Mark 13:22.  Then White writes this, listen to this: 

      We are warned that it is to happen.  Most scholars feel the 
      words of Jesus apply particularly to the last days.  They may be 
      approaching us now.  How are we to discern the false from the 
      true?  For one thing, true prophets will be unpopular.

Listen to me, let me say this as plainly as I possibly can, that is the worst 
imaginable starting point for a discussion of how to discern false prophets!  
Whether they're unpopular or not doesn't mean anything.  Jim Jones was 
unpopular, except with a few deceived souls.  Certainly, those who speak 
truth are often unpopular, but notoriety and unpopularity is not a test of 
authenticity.  Saddam Hussein is unpopular!  And Jesus and John the Baptist 
went through periods of their ministry when they were enormously popular.  
That doesn't prove anything.  The only test of a true prophet is the accuracy 
of his prophecies.  

Deuteronomy 18:21-22 says, "How shall we know the word which the Lord has not 
spoken?  When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not 
come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken.  
The prophet has spoken it presumptuously."  Simple, Deuteronomy 18:21-22, "If 
it isn't true it isn't from God!"  And what was the penalty under the Law for 
such a prophecy?  Verse 20 adds, "But the prophet who shall speak a word 
presumptuously in My name which I have commanded him to speak. . .that 
prophet shall die."  There weren't in those days a lot of false prophets 
running around loose.  Astonishingly, in a five page discussion, of how to 
discern false prophets, White never once, in five pages, never once speaks of 
accuracy or truthfulness as a test of their integrity.  In fact, he 
explicitly states that he believes that those are not valid tests of a 
prophet's credentials!  

He believes that lying prophecies do not necessarily disqualify a person from 
speaking for God.  He concludes his section on discerning false prophets with 
this statement, "Prophets are, of course, human beings.  As such, they can 
make mistakes and lie.  They need not cease to be prophets for their mistakes 
and failings."  That statement not only betrays an appalling ignorance of 
Scripture, but it betrays a very strong desire to legitimize prophecy at any 
cost.  Biblically a prophet spoke the mind of God.  Every prophetic message 
contained a "Thus saith the Lord," if not explicitly, implicitly.  A prophecy 
in the Biblical sense is not the prophets opinion, it's not the prophets 
speculation, it is the Word of God and it could never be wrong--never!  It is 
not a mere impression on the prophet's mind.  It is not a guess.  It is not a 
divination.  It has nothing whatever to do with sooth saying; it is a Word 
from the Lord.  And the Lord never made a mistake.  And since the prophet 
speaks a Word from the Lord, he was held to the highest level of 
accountability and judged with the utmost severity if he prophesied falsely.  

It stands to reason that since a prophet is a mouthpiece for God's own words, 
every authentic prophecy would be true, reliable, and inerrant.  Otherwise, 
God's a liar, for we must downgrade the meaning of prophecy and embrace some 
secondary level of inspiration where you sort of give your opinion.  We would 
have to devise some kind of theory in which God somehow enables contemporary 
prophets to deliver a message that maybe true or maybe false; it's sort of 
"up for grabs."  Beloved, the ecclesiastical landscape is literally filled 
with Charismatics who are saying, "God talked to them and God gave them 
prophecies," and they are pushing those prophecies at the Church.  That is 
serious, that is disastrous, and the results of it are all around us.

Last Sunday, in connection with talking about discernment, I quoted from Bill 
Haman (sp.), who wrote an article in the magazine called Charisma, which is 
one of the chief magazines of the movement.  And in that article he shared 
his belief about prophecies and I need to repeat that because you need to 
hear it in this context.  Haman believes: 

      "All personal prophecies are conditional, whether or not any 
      conditions are made explicit."  That is, he says, "Prophecies 
      can be canceled, altered, revised, reversed, or diminished.  For 
      prophecy of this kind to come to pass requires the proper 
      participation and cooperation of the one who receives the 
      prophetic word."  

So in Haman's scheme, the fact that prophecy goes unfulfilled is no proof it 
was false to begin with!  If circumstances change or if the prophet himself 
lacks faith, God may change the prophecy in any way or even cancel it.  So 
everything is "up for grabs."  First, he may be right, he may be wrong.  If 
he's right, and he doesn't follow through with the right amount of faith, or 
circumstances change, even though it once was right, it now is wrong.  It 
should come to pass, it might not come to pass, if it does come to pass it's 
ok, if it doesn't come to pass it's ok.  Just, endless, useless double talk!  
Obviously, Haman would deny that he puts modern prophecy on the same level as 
Scripture, but in practice it is absolutely impossible to discern any 
distinction.  

Now how do you determine if a prophecy is true?  Here's what Haman says, 
listen to this: 

      I have sometimes heard people say, "I didn't witness with that 
      prophecy," but after questioning them, I discovered that what 
      they really meant was that the prophecy didn't fit their 
      theology, personal desires, or goals, or their emotions reacted 
      negatively to it.  They failed to understand that we don't bear 
      witness with the soul, the mind, the emotions, or will.  Our 
      reasoning is in the mind, not the spirit.  So our traditions, 
      beliefs and strong opinions are not true witnesses to prophetic 
      truth.  The spirit reaction originates deep within our being.  
      Many Christians describe the physical location of its 
      corresponding sensation as the upper abdominal area. 

What is he saying?  He is saying, "Ignore your beliefs.  Ignore your 
theology.  Ignore your reason.  Ignore your logic.  Ignore your common sense, 
and wait for a feeling in your upper abdominal area, so you will know whether 
a prophecy is true!"  Foolish!  Nonsense!  That kind of thinking, however, 
permeates the Charismatic movement.  In the end, many prophecies are judged 
on nothing more than some kind of feeling in the gut.  That is precisely why 
error and confusion run rampant in the Charismatic movement.  You cannot have 
an approach to theological data like that without having Satan move in and 
confuse everybody.  The fact remains throughout the history of the Church, no 
genuine revival, no orthodox movement has ever been led by people whose 
primary authority was based on private revelations from God.  None in the 
history of the Church.  Many groups have claimed to receive new revelation, 
but all of them have been fanatical, heretical, cultic, and fraudulent.  Both 
Charismatics and Non-Charismatics need to consider whether there is a 
parallel between these groups and the modern Charismatic movement.  It moves 
more, and more, and more into heresy and aberration, because it is not 
controlled by the Word of God.  

Several major heresies will illustrate this for you, and I will give you a 
little history flow here.  Let's take an old one from the second century, 
Montanism.  Montanism.  Montanus was a second century heretic from Phrygia, 
who believed he was a prophet sent by God to reform Christianity with new 
revelation.  He believed he was inspired by the Holy Spirit in all his 
teaching and he wrote the very Word of God, and spoke the very Word of God.  
Two "so called" prophetesses, Priscilla and Maximilla, were instrumental in 
the spread of Montanism.  And I warn you at this point, that in most cults 
there has been a dominating influence by a woman, which, of course, steps 
outside the provision of Scripture, indicating clearly to us that women are 
not to teach in the Church, but are to learn in submission.  And so, there is 
a reversal of that kind of role, usually in cultic activity.  It was true in 
Montanism back in the second century.  

Of these women, Eusebius, one of the early fathers wrote, "Montanus also 
stirred up two women and filled them with the bastard spirit, so that they 
uttered demented, absurd, and irresponsible sayings."  Some historians have 
taken that to mean that these women spoke in tongues.  Hippolytus, another 
early writer, wrote about the Montanists and said this, and, of course, these 
have been translated into English.  He said of the Montanist: 

      They have been deceived by two females, Priscilla and Maximilla, 
      by name, whom they hold to be prophetesses, asserting that into 
      them the Paraclete Spirit entered.  They magnify these females 
      above the Apostles and every gift of grace, so that some of them 
      go so far as to say that "In them there is something more than 
      Christ."  They introduce novelties in the form of fasts and 
      feasts, abstinences, and diets of radishes, giving these females 
      as their authority.  

Montanism spread rapidly throughout the early church and reached Rome by the 
second half of the second century.  Eusebius described its birth and early 
growth with these words: 

      Montanus, they say, first exposed himself to the assaults of the 
      adversary through his unbounded lust for leadership.  He was one 
      of the recent converts and he became possessed of a spirit and 
      suddenly began to rave in a kind of a ecstatic trance and to 
      babble jargon, prophesying in a manner contrary to the custom of 
      the Church, which had been handed down by tradition from the 
      earliest times.  Some of them had heard his bastard utterances; 
      rebuked him as one possessed of a devil, remembering the Lord's 
      warning to guard vigilantly against the coming of false 
      prophets.  But others were carried away and not a little elated, 
      thinking themselves possessed of the Holy Spirit and of the gift 
      of prophecy.

There you are in the second century.  Satan already attempting to counterfeit 
and confuse in the Church with supposed new revelation.  Tertullian, one of 
the leading Church Fathers converted to Montanism in the later years of his 
life and wrote this description of a Montanist church service.  Here is his 
description:

      We have among us now a sister who has been granted gifts of 
      revelations, which she experiences in church during the Sunday 
      services through ecstatic vision in the spirit.  An