QUICKUNQUE VULT                                 

              commonly called THE CREED OF SAINT ATHANASIUS                  
 
       [Following is a treatment by the early Church of the notion of        
       the Triune God, and a definition of the Catholic (universal,          
       Christian) Faith.  The term Catholic here does not mean Roman 
       Catholic.]



       Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he    
       hold the Catholic Faith. Which Faith except everyone do keep whole    
       and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the   
       Catholic Faith is this:  That we worship one God in Trinity, and      
       Trinity in Unity, neither confounding the persons, nor dividing the   
       Substance. For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, 
       and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the  
       Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one, the Glory equal, the Majesty  
       co-eternal. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the   
       Holy Ghost. The Father uncreate, the Son uncreate, and the Holy       
       Ghost uncreate. The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible,
 
      and the Holy Ghost incomprehensible. The Father eternal, the Son       
      eternal, the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals,  
      but one eternal. As also there are not three incomprehensibles, nor    
      three uncreated, but one incomprehensible. So likewise the Father      
      is Almighty, the Son Almighty, and the Holy Ghost Almighty.And yet     
      they are not three Almighties, but one Almighty.                       

      So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God.       
      And yet they are not three Gods, but one God. So likewise the          
      Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not     
      three Lords, but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the         
      Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by himself to be both     
      God and Lord. So we are forbidden by the Catholic Religion, to say,    
      There be three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none,       
      neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone, not     
      made, nor created, but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father       
      and of the Son, neither made, nor created nor begotten, but            
      proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not    
      three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts.                     

      And in this Trinity none is afore, or after other; none is greater,    
      or less than another; But the whole three Persons are co-eternal       
      together and co-equal. So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the     
      Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped.         
      He therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity.        

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          Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he      
     also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ.  For     
     the right Faith is, that we believe and confess, that our Lord Jesus    
     Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God, of the Substance of        
     the Father, begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the Substance of    
     his Mother, born in the world; Perfect God and perfect Man, of a        
     reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting; Equal to the Father, as     
     touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father, as touching his       
     Manhood. Who although he be God and Man, yet he is not two, but         
     one Christ; One, not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh, but       
     by taking of the Manhood into God; One altogether; not by confusion     
     of Substance, but by unity of Person.                                   
                                                                             
          For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man, so God and Man    
     is one
    Christ; Who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell,
 
     rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, he     
     sitteth on the right hand of the Father, God Almighty, from whence he   
     shall come to judge the quick and the dead. At whose coming all men     
     shall rise again with their bodies and shall give account for their     
     own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; 
     and they that have done evil into everlasting fire.                     

         This is the Catholic Faith, which except a man believe faithfully,  
     he cannot be saved.                                                     


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         A quick historical commentary F.Y.I. (for your information!)

     My own denomination no longer includes the Athanasian Creed as central  
     to the faith as the Nicene and Apostle's Creed still are.  However,     
     this  creed was very formative in the history of the Church and is      
     worthy of consideration.  [I have used single quote marks ''for emphasis
     as I cannot do italics; gotten spoiled by WordPerfect!]  The following  
     is a scholarly treatment I think is not too difficult reading           
     considering the complexity of the subject matter.]                      
                                                                             
     This creed, called the "Quicunque Vult" or Athanasius' Creed was        
     formulated primarily in response to two prominent heresies known as     
      "subordinationism" and "monarchianism."                                
                                                                             
     Any teaching which "subordinates" the Son to the Father, and the        
     Spirit to both Father and Son, by treating them as three divine (or     
     quasi-divine) beings which are separate from each other because they    
     exist at different levels of reality is known as subordinationism.      
     In other words, subordinationism is a direct and emphatic assertion     
     that Son and Spirit are intermediaries between God and the world.       
     They are divine; but they are not as  divine as the Father.             
     Consequently, they are capable--in a way in which he is not--of being   
     directly related to the finite world.  On a map of the structure of     
     reality, they would be "closer" to the visible world than the Father.   
                                       
   different from the Father; and neither, for that matter, is the Spirit.   

        But if this is what one wants to say, why not say it in the          
   simplest and most economical way possible?  Why not dispense with any     
   real distinction among Father, Son and Spirit, and say that it is the one 
   God, the indivisible ultimate, who alone is really divine?  This, in      
   essence, was the position
                                                                             
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   of those who are known as "monarchians."  These teachers--and their       
   tradition reached back into the second century--would, of course, have    
   agreed with Athanasius in their opposition to any form of subordina-      
   tionism.  They saw no reason, however, to complicate matters by insisting 
   on a real threefoldness in God.  Once you have pulled up the rope ladder  
   of subordinate or intermediary "divine " beings, what is left, in effect, 
   is simply the top rung--God, alone in himself.  Moreover, it is only in   
   this way that the unity of God can truly be safeguarded.  For all its     
   virtues, the position of people like Athanasius seemed to say that there  
   are three coequal Gods; and Arius was assuredly correct in perceiving the 
   absurdity of that position.

        But then what did the monarchians make of the trinitarian formula?   
   How did they explain or interpret expressions like 'Father, Son, and Holy 
   Spirit?' Needless to say, they did not want simply to be rid of this way  
   of talking. They merely wished, as we have said, to make sure that it was 
   not taken to refer to any 'real' distinctions in God.  What they          
   proposed, therefore, was a very simple--and in its way appealing--        
   solution.  In one way or another, they all suggested that Father, Son,    
   and Spirit be taken as names for 'different ways in which God is seen     
   by us.'  This might mean, for example, that they are names for            
   different attributes of God (and thus equivalent to abstract words like   
   'creative' or 'self-expressive'); or it might mean that they are names    
   for God's 'appearance,' for what he 'looks like.'

        Now at first glance this position seems both plausible and helpful.  
   It does, after all, give concrete meaning to the trinitarian formula; and 
   at the same time, it asserts in a serious and explicit way the unity of   
   God. A second glance, however, reveals a rather strange thing.  Like the  
   subordinationist, the monarchian erects a barrier between God and human   
   beings. In this case, of course, the barrier is not made up of a          
   descending hierarchy of intermediary divine beings.  Rather, it is        
   constituted by God's appearance, which for the monarchian takes the       
   place, functionally speaking, of intermediaries.  In other words, the     
   monarchian asserts that although God 'is' not Father, Son, and Holy       
   Spirit, he nevertheless 'looks like' Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.        
   Between what God is in himself, on the one hand, and human beings on      
   the other, there stands this appearance:  and again we are confronted     
   with a doctrine which questions the true and active presence of God       
   himself with humanity.  On the monarchian view, what we have of God       
   directly is only his appearance, and not also his reality.

        It was in order to forestall or correct this rather strange form of  
   the idea of the "intermediary" that most Christian teachers insisted on   
   saying that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are 'hypostases.'                
   This Greek word (which was translated into Latin as 'persona,' whence the 
   English 'person') meant simply "something objectively real."  When        
   applied to Father, Son and Holy Spirit, therefore, it was calculated      
   to assert that God does not just 'appear' to be threefold; he genuinely   
   is threefold.  Each of the three names refers to a real something in      
   God.  This assertion, moreover, constitutes yet  another defense of the   
   conviction that in creation, redemption and sanctification what is with   
   us is 'God'--as he truly is in himself.

        Thus, the orthodox position in its basic outlines finally appeared.  
   God is 'one' in being.  But, at the same time, he is, objectively and in  
   himself, three:  "One God in three hypostases (persons)."  But how can    
   such a thing be said, and what does it mean?                              

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        It would be easy, of course, to evade these questions by saying      
   that the doctrine of the Trinity is a mystery, and therefore something    
 
   which  must be accepted on faith.  This policy, however, will not really  
   work; and that is not merely because people have a hard time believing    
   something whose point they cannot see.  In Christian faith, a mystery is  
   not something which fails to make sense.  It is, rather, something whose  
   sense can be discerned, and even stated, but never mastered or fully      
   comprehended in its richness.  The mysterious is such not because of its  
   absurdity or its incoherence, but because of its depth:  not because one  
   cannot see or state truth about it, but because the truth as stated is    
   only a bare intimation of the reality to which it points.  There can,     
   therefore, be no retreat from the task of asking what it is that the      
   doctrine of the Trinity is saying or pointing to.

        In this task, the first thing which must be firmly grasped is the    
   deliberate seriousness with which the doctrine affirms that God is 'one.' 
   When it is said that Son and Spirit are God, that they are "of one        
   being" with the Father, this does not mean that they and the Father are   
   three quite separate instances of "Godness."  It means, rather, that they 
   are in very truth one and the same God.  Each of them is all that God is; 
   and none of them is separated from the others in being God.  The persons  
   are not independent individuals:  They are, to use classical language,    
   'ways in which God is God.'  This suggests, moreover, yet another         
   dimension of God's unity. Because the persons 'are' not separate things,  
  they do not 'do' things separately, and they do not do 'different' things. 
  All of the works of God are works of the Father done in the Son and        
  perfected through the Spirit.

        But how is this so?  Do we not, in fact, associate creation with     
   the Father, redemption with the Son, and sanctification with the Holy     
   Spirit? The answer to this question is obviously Yes.  It needs to be     
   remembered, however, that these three works of God are in reality         
   discovered as "moments" or dimensions of a single relationship.  Redem-   
   ption, I have said, is creation, historically objectified and enacted.    
   Similarly, sanctification 'is' redemption, subjectively actualized.  What 
   God is and what he does in relation to 
humankind are 'one thing.'       
   What the Word does is what the Father does; and what the Holy Spirit does 
   is what the Word does.  All carry out the one work of God, which is, as I 
   have said, always the work 'of' the Father, 'in' the Son, and 'through'   
 
   the Holy Spirit.

        If this is so, however, in what way do the persons differ from one   
   another?  How are they distinct?

        Here the key word is 'relation.'  It is worth noticing that every    
   account given of the meaning of the trinitarian formula explains the      
   distinction of the persons in terms of some kind of 'relatedness' which   
   is attributed to God.  Subordinationism and monarchianism alike focused   
   attention on the relationship of God to the created world as a whole, or  
   to human beings in particular.  In other words, the point, as they saw it,
 
   of making a distinction of persons was to explain the 'how' of God's      
   'relatedness to the finite universe.'  That is why the concept of the     
   intermediary played so central a role in their thought.  What each of     
   these positions really emphasized, in short, was the distinction between  
   God-in-himself and God-related-to-the-world. Subordinationism identified  
   the Father with God-in-himself, removed and even isolated from the world. 
   It then explained the Son and the Holy Spirit in 

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   their distinction from the Father as God-in-contact-with-the-world--a     
   slightly inferior kind of God.  The monarchian, as we has seen, took a    
   somewhat different tack, but worked with essentially the same idea.  For  
   him, God-in-himself was the one true God; and God-in-relation-to-the-world
   was God as he "appeared" in threefold guise.

        The orthodox position results from a refusal to make this sort of    
   distinction in God.  It wants to say, as we have seen, that God 'in       
   'himself' is self-communicative and active in relation to the world:      
   that at the very heart of the divine being is a movement of self-bestowal,
   of sharing, of affirmation of the "other."  In other words, the orthodox  
   sought a way of asserting that God-in-himself is not distinct from, but   
   exactly the same as, God-in-relation; and their way of doing this was to  
   say that the distinction of persons is expressive of the fact that relat- 
   edness is part of God's own,proper way of being.  It is, therefore, not,  
   in the first instance, God's relationship to the world which the doctrine 
   of the Trinity focuses on. Rather, it is the fact that 'God stands in     
   relation to himself.'  On this understanding, the language of the         
   trinitarian formula--'Father, Word, Holy Spirit'--says in effect that     
   God truly becomes "other' for himself, that he communicates himself to    
   himself.  And this, in turn, means that relatedness to an "other" is not  
   something eternal or foreign to God, but part of the very logic of his    
   being.  The doctrine of the Trinity says what God must be like in himself 
   to be the sort of God who genuinely gives himself--communicates him-      
   self--in love.  For this reason, it states the presupposition of what we  
   learn about God in considering him as the ultimate "other' who is 
   actively present in creating, redeeming, and sanctifying.

        IN CONCLUSION the "mystery" of Trinity-in-unity, then, is the 
   mystery of God's self-communicative nature as that is expressed in his    
   own  being.  He is his own Word to himself, and his own appropriation     
   of that Word. He genuinely reproduces himself for himself;  and yet all   
   these "selves" are clearly 'one' in a final and unqualified sense.

        Consequently, the doctrine of the Trinity, which is intimated in the 
   very structure of the creeds, states what sort of God it is whose very    
   nature is to affirm, and set himself in relation to, an "other."  The     
   creeds, as we use them, enact jsut such a relation.  When they are        
   recited sincerely, they constitute a point at which a created person is   
   seized up in the eternal self-communication of Father, Word, and Holy     
   Spirit; for that is the meaning of creation, of redemption, and of        
   sanctification.


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